Today I sit down with Steve Filler, UK Country Manager at ShowHeroes, to unpack one of the most talked-about shifts in advertising right now—attention as a metric, and where it falls short. We get into why attention is really about opportunity, not outcomes, and how pairing it with brand lift and creative strategy is what actually drives results. Steve also shares how CTV is evolving, what’s holding back real-time optimization, and why smarter creative variation—not just better placement—is the next big unlock for marketers.

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The way people discover and buy is shifting quickly, and AI is right at the center of it. Jamie Domenici, CMO of Klaviyo, breaks down Klaviyo’s new “vibe marketing” approach, what it means to move from building campaigns to prompting them, and why first-party data is quickly becoming the foundation for what comes next.

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Welcome back to Modern Marketing and Measurement. On this episode I sit down with Jessica Shapiro, CMO at LiveRamp, to talk about what she coins a Brand Renaissance. We cover how data collaboration helps connect the full customer picture, how personalization should support (not dilute) brand, and why treating customer data with care is key to building relationships that actually last.

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