The winner of the inaugural Grammy for Best Traditional Country Album for his third album, ‘Ain’t In It for My Health,’ Zach Top didn’t come up through the usual Nashville machine. Born in Sunnyside, Washington, he was fronting his family’s bluegrass band at seven, dropped out of college in Colorado, posted covers of country legends on Facebook, faced label rejection, and somehow wound up opening for his hero George Strait.

We talk about keeping traditional country alive in a modern industry, the tension between career ambition and settling down, heartbreak, touring, virality, and whether success changes your relationship with the art itself. Plus: cold plunging, getting home schooled, building houses, making swords, ‘Lord of the Rings,’ and so much more.

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It’s not every day a sitting governor stops by the couch. Gretchen Whitmer— the two-term Governor of Michigan, political lightning rod, and the politician affectionately nicknamed “Big Gretch” by the internet — joins us for a wide-ranging conversation that gets into both policy and personhood.

We talk about the realities of leadership: her eight-year legacy, the philosophy of underpromising and overdelivering, making the business case for equity, and why understanding people’s motivations matters more than simply talking at them. She reflects on the formative experiences that shaped her — from early ESPN commentator aspirations to unexpectedly finding her way into public service, plus the intensely difficult period where her mother became seriously ill while she was newly married, moving house, and starting life as a state representative.

We also get into healthcare battles, medical debt, aging parents, the Flint water crisis, abortion rights, tariffs, the kidnapping plot, parenting through political chaos, working with Donald Trump, and why she believes the antidote to apathy is action. Plus: what law she’d enact if she could wave a wand, what comes after public office, what she’s most proud of — and whether Zach thinks she should run for president (resounding yes!).

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It’s been a minute since Joshua was last on the couch. The last time in 2024 (https://tinyurl.com/muuvbhct) ,and then that time in 2021 (https://tinyurl.com/4e5kurcj), and every time he stops in, things get deep, fast. This interview is no different. The 25-year-old is back in the hot seat to discuss his memoir ‘Rookie: My Public, Private, and Secret Life,’ and much like his book, we cover everything: his early, formative years in Hollywood, the imposter syndrome, the public turning on him because of that song and his very serious brush with death. We also discuss his battles with body dysmorphia, substances and — trigger warning — sexual abuse and suicidal ideation.

It’s been a journey (one that’s included an Ayahuasca journey in fact) and it’s ongoing. Faith, routine, therapy, they’re all helping. We also talk ‘High School Musical: The Musical: The Series,’ his run off Broadway on ‘Little Shop of Horrors,’ getting inspired by Sombr and so much more.

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