You spend days — sometimes weeks — building the perfect marketing campaign. Your webinars are polished, your emails are perfectly written, and everything looks professional. You put enormous effort into making every detail feel right.

But when it all goes live, the sales barely move.

After all that work, you’re left wondering why something that looked so slick didn’t convert the way you expected.

In this episode of The Power of Two, I sit down with Eli Natoli, a marketing strategist, author, and host of the Marketing Your Truth podcast. Eli helps entrepreneurs grow profitable businesses by focusing on one thing most people overlook: Trust

After years of watching capable business owners burn out chasing attention, Eli developed the Serve Event Method—a relationship-driven approach designed to replace webinars, pitch-heavy launches, and scattered marketing efforts with a single, high-impact experience.

We explore why polished marketing alone no longer creates connection, and why trust is what ultimately gets people engage, respond, and buy.

At the core of her work is a powerful shift: marketing isn’t about doing more—it’s about creating clarity, connection, and confidence.

Catch these highlights from our discussion....

>> Why “more content” isn’t the answer—and what actually drives conversions today

>> How trust has become the most valuable currency in business

>> Why most webinars fail (and what audiences are really tired of)

>> How to create events that build connection, credibility, and sales—without pressure

>> The difference between teaching for value and building confidence that converts

>> What to look for in a joint venture partner to protect your reputation

And much more…

One of the biggest takeaways from this conversation is simple but powerful:

“People don’t need more persuasion. They need clarity.”

In a crowded, sceptical market, the businesses that grow aren’t the loudest - they’re the ones that create trust, they feel aligned, and they're relatable.

For partnerships, especially, this matters even more. When you promote someone else, you’re putting your own reputation on the line. The right partners aren’t just people who have reach - they’re the ones with credibility, who share your values, and who are ultimately trusted by their audience.

Here are some useful resources from our interview:

➡️ Eli Natoli Event Serve Method

➡️ Eli Natoli's LinkedIn Profile

Connect to the host, Danny Bermant:

➡️ Connect to Danny on LinkedIn

➡️ Connect to Danny on Facebook

➡️ Danny’s Joint Venture Mastery Newsletter

➡️ Danny’s Get JV Ready in Just 5 Days Bootcamp

What do you do when your product launch goes live… and nobody buys?

That’s exactly the situation Laura Sprinkle found herself in after running a webinar launch supported by affiliate partners. Twenty-four hours in, there were no sales coming through, emotions were high, and it felt like the launch was failing. But one partnership changed everything.

In this episode of The Power of Two, Danny interviews Laura Sprinkle, founder of Rootabl, an affiliate partnership platform designed to help course creators and entrepreneurs build stronger, more profitable collaborations. Laura has helped generate more than $50 million in affiliate revenue for clients ranging from emerging entrepreneurs to seven-figure industry leaders, with her expertise featured in Forbes and leading business podcasts.

In this week's episode, Laura shares how a trusted affiliate partner helped her pivot a struggling launch into a huge success — and why the future of partnerships isn’t about transactions, obligation, or “you promote me, I’ll promote you.” Instead, it’s about trust, generosity, personalization, and building relationships that genuinely serve your audience.

Throughout the conversation, Danny and Laura explore what makes partnerships thrive, why appreciation is one of the most overlooked growth strategies in business, and how a small number of aligned partners can completely transform the trajectory of a launch.

Catch these highlights from our discussion....

>> Why Laura’s launch initially looked like a complete failure, and the conversation with one partner that turned everything around

>> How just 8 affiliates helped quadruple Laura's launch revenue

>> Why “clean energy” matters in partnerships and promotions

>> The “Attract, Activate, Amplify, Appreciate” framework that will help you crush your partnerships

>> How frustrating it can be track affiliate activity, and how Laura built her own app, Rootabl to solve this problem

>> Why it often takes just a handful of great partners to drive the majority of your sales

And much more!

Laura’s story shows how quickly a launch can turn around when you have the right people in your corner. You'll hear first-hand about the emotional reality of launches, the importance of having partners you can brainstorm with when things don't go according to plan, and why a small number of deeply engaged affiliates will almost always outperform a huge list of disengaged promoters.

Here are some useful resources from our interview:

➡️ Laura Sprinkle's Website

➡️ Laura Sprinkle's Rootabl App

➡️ Laura Sprinkle's LinkedIn Profile

Connect to the host, Danny Bermant:

➡️ Connect to Danny on LinkedIn

➡️ Connect to Danny on Facebook

➡️ Danny’s Joint Venture Mastery Newsletter

➡️ Danny’s Get JV Ready in Just 5 Days Bootcamp

Being an entrepreneur can be lonely. You carry the responsibility, make the decisions, and often face challenges on your own. But imagine facing true isolation—alone in a prison cell.

In this episode of The Power of Two, we hear the extraordinary story of Jose Pereira, who was wrongfully imprisoned in Venezuela for nearly five years on fabricated charges.

Jose Pereira is a best-selling author, international speaker, resilience coach, and former CEO of Citgo Petroleum. After a long career in the oil and gas industry, Jose was preparing to retire in 2017 when he was called to a meeting in Caracas. What he thought was a routine presentation turned into an ambush.

Jose and five colleagues were arrested and accused of being American spies. The media later dubbed them the “Citgo Six.” After enduring harsh conditions and years of uncertainty, Jose was eventually released in a prisoner exchange and now dedicates his life to teaching resilience and leadership.

One of the most powerful lessons from Jose’s story is that survival—and success—rarely happens alone. Jose's first year of imprisonment was in solitary confinement. When he was finally placed together with his fellow executives, they created what they called a “survivor plan,” assigning roles based on each person’s strengths. By supporting each other, respecting expertise, and creating structure, they formed a partnership that helped them endure unimaginable circumstances.

Catch these highlights from our discussion....

>> Why entrepreneurs often struggle when they try to do everything alone

>> How respecting the expertise of others on your team brings you closer together raises everyone's performance

>>The importance of routine and structure during difficult times

>> How strong relationships support resilience and mental wellbeing

>> Why humility is essential for effective leadership

>> How the power of collaboration can help you overcome even the most adverse challenges in your business and your life

Jose’s story is a powerful reminder that resilience is rarely a solo effort. Whether in business or life, the right people around you can make the hardest journeys possible—and even transformative.

Here are some useful resources from our interview:

➡️ Jose Perreira's Book 'Unbreakable'

➡️ Jose Perreira Website

➡️ Jose Pereira's LinkedIn Profile

Connect to the host, Danny Bermant:

➡️ Connect to Danny on LinkedIn

➡️ Connect to Danny on Facebook

➡️ Danny’s Joint Venture Mastery Newsletter

➡️ Danny’s Get JV Ready in Just 5 Days Bootcamp