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The Midlife Chrysalis

The Midlife Chrysalis

By: Chip Conley
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The Midlife Chrysalis is a one-hour podcast hosted by Chip Conley, bestselling author of Learning to Love Midlife and founder of MEA (Modern Elder Academy). Chip and his high-profile guests – including Maria Shriver, Hoda Kotb, Elizabeth Gilbert, Michael Franti, and more – dive into raw, vulnerable conversations about the profound transitions they’ve experienced in midlife. Listeners get a rare look at how even the most successful individuals have to navigate life’s pivotal changes – and gain practical wisdom they can apply in their own lives for a more fulfilling and purposeful next chapter.Chip Conley Personal Development Personal Success
Episodes
  • Stop Living on Autopilot. Start Living for Real | Bonnie Wan
    Apr 17 2026

    Most people don’t realize they’re living someone else’s life until it’s too late.


    In this episode, Chip Conley sits down with Bonnie Wan, a renowned brand strategist and author of The Life Brief, who has spent decades studying human behavior, and now helps people redesign their lives with clarity and intention.


    Through her “Life Brief” method, people learn how to cut through the noise and make decisions that truly align with them.


    Key insights:

    • Why clarity alone doesn’t change your life
    • The one question that reveals what you really want
    • How to stop living on autopilot
    • What’s really behind feeling stuck in midlife


    If something feels off but you can’t explain why, this will make it clear.


    Watch now and start taking your life back.


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro and episode setup(04:04) Bonnie Wan introduction

    (04:44) Early life and path into advertising

    (07:47) The “Got Milk” story and key insight

    (13:05) What is The Life Brief

    (14:46) Clarity and “Fuck Yes” feeling

    (16:24) Why people feel stuck in midlife

    (17:10) Powerful questions to change your life

    (20:00) Marriage crisis and breakthrough

    (23:06) “Take Our Time” life brief

    (26:15) From career to calling

    (30:01) Ambition from the inside out

    (31:38) What gets better with age

    (33:09) What does “enough” really mean

    (35:43) Redefining wealth as relationships

    (36:11) Designing a slower, intentional life

    (40:25) “Chase your goosebumps” advice

    (41:56) Breaking free from the success script

    (47:40) Final reflections and closing


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #LifeBrief #BonnieWan #FindYourFuckYes #MidlifeClarity #LifeOnPurpose #StopLivingSomeoneElsesLife #LifeRedesign #ClarityInLife #MidlifeAwakening #IntentionalLiving #LifeStrategy #PersonalClarity #ReclaimYourLife #InnerKnowing #LifeReset

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    52 mins
  • Knowledge Won’t Save You. Curiosity Will
    Apr 15 2026

    You don’t stay relevant by knowing more. You stay relevant by staying curious.


    In this episode of Wisdom Wednesday, Chip Conley joins Derek Gehl to break down why curiosity, not experience or intelligence, is the real edge in midlife and beyond.


    Here’s what stands out:

    • Curiosity is the antidote to irrelevance
    • Asking better questions beats having the right answers
    • Midlife requires a shift from knowledge to wisdom
    • Learning for no reason can unlock new purpose
    • Staying curious keeps your mind sharp and engaged


    It’s a simple shift, but it changes everything.


    👉 Watch now and start thinking like a beginner again


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Why curiosity improves work and life

    03:34 Curiosity as antidote to irrelevance

    06:18 Chip’s experience at Airbnb

    10:10 Power of asking better questions

    12:33 Curiosity vs learning explained

    14:46 Curiosity and innovation culture

    18:04 Learning for curiosity not productivity

    18:48 Turning curiosity into new paths

    22:45 How curiosity looks for everyday people

    25:51 Learning for the sake of passion

    26:56 Lifelong learning and aging

    28:38 Curiosity and brain health

    29:07 Key question what are you a beginner in

    30:12 Creating space for curiosity


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #curiosity #growthmindset #lifelonglearning #midlifegrowth #selfimprovement #personaldevelopment #mentalfitness #stayrelevant #learnhowtolearn #askbetterquestions #mindsetshift #reinventyourself #emotionalintelligence #careertransition #wisdom

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    28 mins
  • She Quit a 30-Year Career to Help Others Rebrand Their Lives | Robin Fisher Roffer
    Apr 13 2026

    Midlife might be the moment everything finally starts to make sense.


    In this episode of The Midlife Chrysalis, Chip sits down with branding expert Robin Fisher Roffer, who spent over 30 years shaping major brands, to explore how those same principles can help you reinvent your life.


    Robin shares her own powerful transition, stepping away from a successful career to start a whole new chapter, and what she’s learned along the way.


    In this episode, you’ll discover:

    • Why real change starts by reconnecting with your original story
    • The 3 essentials of a strong personal identity: clarity, consistency, and authenticity
    • How to define your own “tagline” for your next chapter
    • A refreshing way to see midlife as freedom, finally


    If you’re feeling ready for something new, or just a little more you, this one will stay with you.


    👉 Watch now and take the first step toward your next chapter.


    Timestamps:

    03:44 Father’s influence and childhood story

    06:55 Early exposure to advertising

    08:12 Career path and starting agency

    09:56 Brand strategy principles explained

    13:34 Intuition and big ideas in branding

    16:34 Applying branding to personal identity

    18:33 Workshop transformations and examples

    20:04 Fast decision-making and creativity

    21:59 Rebranding midlife discussion

    24:50 Taglines and brand positioning

    27:28 Personal midlife transformation

    32:26 Moving to Santa Fe and lifestyle

    34:48 Wisdom bumper sticker

    39:21 Workshop experience and benefits


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #MidlifeReinvention #RebrandYourLife #StartOverAt60 #LifeAfter50 #PersonalBranding #FindYourPurpose #CareerChange #NextChapter #SelfReinvention #WomenOver50 #LifeTransformation #PersonalGrowth #SecondAct #MeaningfulLife #MidlifeChrysalis

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    46 mins
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