Divorce is a death — of a marriage, an identity, a family, a home — and yet our culture offers almost none of the support it would for any other kind of loss. In this solo episode, Karen gets honest about the grief of divorce: why we wildly underestimate it, why we're often left to navigate it in isolation, and what it actually looks like to move through it with intention.

Karen introduces the concept of ambiguous grief — the particular pain of losing someone who is still very much present in your life as a co-parent — and why that "gone but not gone" experience makes healing so disorienting. She also calls out the trap of pain shopping: the social media stalking, the gossip, the drive-bys that keep picking at a wound that's trying to heal.

You'll also hear Karen's case for including divorce in the Family Medical Leave Act, practical advice for surviving those first brutal transition days when the kids leave for the other home, and why the goal isn't to stop caring — it's to reach a place of emotional indifference, where your ex's choices simply don't rattle you anymore.

This is an episode worth sharing with anyone in your support circle who wants to show up for you but isn't sure how.

Topics covered:

• Why divorce grief is invisible — and why that isolation makes it harder
• The many losses layered inside one divorce
• Ambiguous grief and the "gone but not gone" experience of co-parenting
• Pain shopping: what it is and why it sets you back
• How scars are different from wounds (and why that's good news)
• What emotional indifference actually means — and why it's the goal
• The grief-relief cocktail: feeling two things at once
• Practical tips for transition days when the kids leave
• Karen's advocacy for divorce-inclusive workplace policies

Resources:

• The Good Divorce by Karen McNenny
• The Good Divorce Academy — online community & classroom
• thegooddivorcecoach.com

"Everything will be okay in the end. And if it's not okay, it's not the end."

In this episode, Karen is joined by the "Freedom Team" — Keri Gwynne, CDC Certified Divorce Coach and CEO of Starting Point by Freedom, and Ryan Finley, CPA, CDFA, CVA, and founder of Freedom Financial Services Group. Together, they bring a uniquely holistic perspective to divorce: coaching, financial forensics, and mediation — all under one roof.

Both Keri and Ryan are survivors of high conflict divorce, and they share candidly how those lived experiences shaped their mission to help families navigate the process with clarity, compassion, and a child-centered lens.

In this episode, you'll hear about:

• How Keri escaped an abusive marriage in the Nashville Bible Belt — and why shame kept her silent for so long
• What a CPA, CDFA, and CVA actually do — and why your attorney alone isn't enough to protect your financial future
• Forensic accounting explained: what it is, when you need it, and the red flags that signal hidden assets
• Real stories of hidden assets — from money funneled into a mother's account to overpaying the IRS by a million dollars!
• Why everything earned during a marriage is marital property — regardless of whose name is on the account
• The tension between faith and divorce: how Keri coaches clients through shame, scripture, and spiritual abuse
• How to talk to your church community about divorce — and why you're asking for support, not permission
• Keeping children at the center of financial decisions and co-parenting agreements
• The Marriage Mastermind — a new workshop by the Freedom Team designed to go upstream, helping couples build stronger marriages using what divorce professionals see break them apart
• The patterns that lead to divorce: financial secrecy, infidelity, pornography addiction, losing yourself in the relationship
• What it took for both Keri and Ryan to trust love again — and what they looked for the second time around

Connect with the Freedom Team:

• Keri Gwynne | Starting Point by Freedom Divorce coaching, mediation & family-focused guidance | Nashville, TN & Sarasota, FL 🌐 startingpointadvocacy.com
• Ryan Finley | Freedom Financial Services Group Divorce financial advisory, forensic accounting & mediation | Nashville, TN & Sarasota, FL 🌐 freedomfsg.com

Watch for the Freedom Team's upcoming Marriage Mastermind workshop in New York City — projected for early summer 2026.

Resources mentioned:

• The Good Divorce by Karen McNenny
• The Good Divorce Academy — online community & classroom
• thegooddivorcecoach.com

In this powerful episode of The Good Divorce Show, host Karen McNenny sits down with Dr. Debi Silber — founder of the Post Betrayal Transformation Institute, creator of National Forgiveness Day, and one of the world's leading experts on betrayal recovery — to explore why betrayal is a distinct form of trauma, and what it actually takes to fully heal from it.

Drawing on her groundbreaking PhD research and her own deeply personal experience, Dr. Debi shares the discoveries that transformed her understanding of betrayal — and the five proven, predictable stages that lead to genuine healing and transformation.

In this episode, you'll learn:

• Why betrayal is a different type of trauma that requires a different approach to healing
• What Post Betrayal Syndrome is — and the staggering statistics behind how many people are living with its symptoms
• Why "time heals all wounds" is a myth when it comes to betrayal
• The five stages of Post Betrayal Transformation — and the most common place people get stuck
• The difference between easily trusting and wisely trusting again
• How self-betrayal shows up in our lives and relationships
• Dr. Debi's own remarkable story — including rebuilding herself, her work, and ultimately her marriage

Whether you're walking through divorce, navigating co-parenting, or supporting clients in transition, this episode offers a framework for understanding one of the most underrecognized forms of trauma — and a roadmap to genuine transformation.

Resources mentioned:

• 📘 Unstuck by Dr. Debi Silber (her newest book, for practitioners)
• 📘 Trust Again by Dr. Debi Silber
• 🎙️ Podcast: From Betrayal to Breakthrough
• 🌐 Post Betrayal Transformation Institute: pbtinstitute.com
• 📅 National Forgiveness Day: September 1st
• 🏫 Betrayal Recovery Certification Program (for coaches and practitioners)

Connect with Karen:

• 📘 The Good Divorce — Karen's book on ending your marriage without ending your family
• 💼 Work with Karen: thegooddivorcecoach.com