Barry Davis is a three-time NCAA champion, Olympic silver medalist, and one of the most beloved figures in American wrestling. But before the medals and banners, he was a kid at the YMCA in Cedar Rapids getting hooked on the sport — and grabbing wall charts at youth tournaments.

In this episode of the Full Tilt Podcast, Barry and I go back 47 years: from Prairie High School rivalries and the infamous dungeon wrestling room, to the legendary Iowa rooms with Dan Gable, brutal weight cuts to 118, international travel behind the Iron Curtain, and the mindset that carried him through world championships and the Olympics.

We also dive into his coaching career, his faith, and why he believes wrestling should be the model sport for character and leadership.

Timestamps:
0:49 How Barry helped start my wrestling journey
3:41 YMCA practices and the early Iowa kids’ tournaments
8:45 The fourth-grade dream: wanting to be like Dan Gable
12:15 Getting pounded in high school, then flipping the switch
18:16 Prairie’s infamous dungeon wrestling room
21:23 Metro rivalries: Prairie vs Jefferson, Washington, Kennedy
24:10 Scouting opponents before streaming and social media
28:09 Where Barry’s passion and intensity came from
35:14 The Zaleski brothers and the Prairie–Iowa pipeline
42:00 First shocks in the Iowa room and learning mat wrestling
49:23 The moment everything “clicked” and Barry took off
1:02:36 Why keeping your work ethic after you get good is everything
1:19:25 The Hy-Vee story: almost walking away at Big Tens
1:49:06 Balancing college wrestling with World and Olympic teams
2:01:14 Olympic battles, Soviet greats, and the 1984 silver
2:08:11 Coaching, faith, and being a role model in the sport
2:16:16 WWTO and helping young athletes become leaders in life

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Jamil Kelly’s wrestling story doesn’t follow the usual script. He wasn’t a blue‑chip recruit. He didn’t win an NCAA title. But he did become an Olympic silver medalist and one of the most respected coaches in the sport.

In this episode of the Full Tilt Podcast, we cover Jamil’s entire arc: – Growing up in Atwater, CA and getting pulled into wrestling as a late starter
– Learning from VHS tapes, “How Low Can You Go,” and studying the greats
– JUCO life at Lassen with future D1 and international stars
– Transitioning to Oklahoma State under John Smith and battling the mental side of confidence
– Wrestling Lightner, Guerrero, Ironside, Schmidt and living through the Bedlam era
– Training with Colet and the 2000 Olympic Team and realizing the Olympics were possible
– Beating Lincoln McIlravy, qualifying for Athens, and winning Olympic silver
– Coaching at Harvard, Stanford, Arizona State, UNC, and in the corner for world champion Trent Hidlay

It’s a masterclass in belief, persistence, and what it really takes to “know what it looks like” at the highest level of wrestling.

Timestamps:

04:15 – Growing up in Atwater, CA and getting “talked into” wrestling as a 4'11" freshman football player
12:40 – VHS tapes, “How Low Can You Go,” and learning wrestling by rewinding John Smith a thousand times
21:10 – From non‑power high school to California state podium and finding JUCO powerhouse Lassen College
32:00 – Life at Lassen: TJ Williams, Reggie Wright, Belarusian hammers, and turning JUCO into a D1 factory
41:30 – The Oklahoma State visit during World Cup, choosing the Cowboys, and first reality check in the OSU room
53:00 – Mental battles in college: wrestling not to lose, Lightner stories, and what held Jamil back at NCAAs
1:03:30 – How training with Colet, Terry Brands, and the 2000 Olympic Team made the Olympics feel possible
1:13:00 – Beating Lincoln McIlravy at the 2004 Trials, game-planning the Russian, and winning Olympic silver
1:22:00 – Coaching chapter: Harvard culture shock, building trust with athletes, and the “odd couple” partnership with Trent Hidlay
1:25:30 – What Jamil wants wrestlers and coaches to take away about belief, preparation, and “knowing what it looks like”

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Three-time NCAA champion and Olympic medalist Nate Carr joins Full Tilt to share how a house of 16 kids, a pastor dad, and a wrestling-obsessed family forged one of the greatest legacies in American wrestling. Nate breaks down his classic battles with Kenny Monday, the influence of Coach Nichols and the Gatsons, and what he learned competing against Soviet greats on the world stage. He also goes deep on mindset, visualization, and faith, revealing the mental tools he used to win and how he now uses them to coach the next generation, including his son and NCAA champion David Carr. This is a masterclass in building champions in sport and in life.

Timed Highlights:
00:00 Growing up in a 16-kid wrestling family in Erie, PA
06:30 Family rivalry, All-Americans, Olympians, and broken furniture stories
13:30 Setting goals to become the best wrestler in the family and a national champion
19:00 Why Nate chose Iowa State over Iowa and the power of winning over mom in recruiting
25:30 Coach Harold Nichols, legendary workout rooms, and tough practice stories
33:00 Classic Iowa vs Iowa State battles and early college rivalries
38:30 Scott Trizzino, Jay Robinson, and fueling the Iowa–Iowa State rivalry
44:00 Kenny Monday rivalries, overtime NCAA finals, and epic trash talk
52:00 Making the World Team, 1984 Olympic Trials heartbreak, and coming back for 1988
59:00 Wrestling Soviet legend Arsen Fadzaev and what made the Russians different
1:06:00 What Americans learned (and missed) from Soviet training systems
1:11:00 Coaching philosophy: purpose-driven practice, mindset, and self-talk
1:18:00 The visualization exercise Nate used before wrestling Kenny Monday
1:24:00 Coaching David Carr, raising seven kids, and being a “professional encourager”
1:28:00 Faith, purpose, and why failure does not make you a failure

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World champion, Olympic medalist, and finance executive Bill Scherr joins the show for a deep dive into one of the most fascinating careers in wrestling history. Bill shares how baling hay in rural South Dakota built his strength, why Randy Lewis changed what South Dakota kids believed was possible, and how Nebraska went from “death’s door” to national trophy contender.

He breaks down Soviet dominance, Iranian passion for the sport, training under legends like Dan Gable and Jay Robinson, and the brutal art of “Red Flag Days.” Bill also talks about his success in both freestyle and Greco, moving up to 220 for the good of Team USA, coaching the women’s national team, and chairing the global effort that brought wrestling back into the Olympic Games.

If you love old-school war stories, high-level strategy, and big-picture thinking about the future of wrestling, this one’s loaded front to back.

Timestamps:

02:13 Growing up in Mobridge, South Dakota, big family, farm work

05:34 South Dakota wrestling culture, influence of Randy Lewis

07:52 Rapid City dual: Randy pins Alexiev, arena explodes

10:09 How youth wrestling has evolved with better training and media

13:52 Choosing Nebraska, Lewis family connection, rebuilding the program

16:20 “Murderers Row” at Nebraska and comeback dual wins

17:29 College rivals: Pete Bush, Ed Banach, classic matches

21:13 Dan Gable stories and the congratulatory letter after 1985 worlds

22:18 Dave Schultz’s curiosity, learning from everyone, Book of Five Rings

25:48 Jay Robinson, visualization, and “fatigue is your friend”

27:39 Red Flag Days and training to get tired

32:03 1981: four national finals in a few weeks (AAU vs USWF)

38:24 Greco success, Frazier, Hauck, and choosing freestyle

47:11 Wrestling the Soviets: strength, systems, regional styles

52:03 Iranians, politics, and the 1985 world final medal stand story

55:57 Moving up to 220 so his brother and Mark Schultz could all make teams

58:28 Never cutting weight and advice to parents on weight cutting

1:07:07 Goodwill Games buzzer-beater and immediate jump to Goldman Sachs

1:13:08 Coaching at Indiana and Northwestern, Herbert and Fox

1:14:21 Coaching the U.S. women’s team and early growth of women’s wrestling

1:18:15 Tricia Saunders’ impact and resistance to women wrestling

1:24:58 Chairing the effort to save Olympic wrestling (CPOW)

1:27:52 How wrestling got dropped and then brought back to the Olympics

1:33:19 What wrestling must fix: rules, challenges, TV product

1:38:36 Funny Mark Manning story: selling blood for spring break

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UFC Hall of Famer and Olympic Greco-Roman standout Randy “The Natural” Couture sits down for a deep-dive into the journey behind the legend. From wrestling for the U.S. Army in the Cold War era to battling on the NCAA stage, chasing Olympic dreams, and pioneering MMA game-planning, Randy shares the untold stories that shaped his career and life. He talks about discovering Greco by accident, training alongside icons at Oklahoma State, wild international tours in communist Europe and Cuba, the infamous “experiment” Alexander Karelin, transitioning into the UFC, and why wrestling is still the ultimate foundation for fighting.

If you’re into wrestling, MMA, or high-performance mindset, this is a masterclass in resilience, problem-solving, and trusting the process.

Timed Highlights
00:00 – Cold open
03:30 – Joining the Army, becoming an air traffic controller, and rediscovering wrestling
10:00 – Accidentally entering Greco and winning his first Greco tournament
17:00 – Making the All-Army team and discovering how big combative sports are in the military
24:00 – The wild 1988 military worlds in Palermo and armored-car rides through Sicily
32:00 – Choosing Oklahoma State, recruiting visit with Sheets and coon hunting in Stillwater
40:00 – Big duals, Iowa–Oklahoma State rivalries, and wrestling Don Frye for a lineup spot
47:30 – World-level Greco years, rivalries with Mike Foy and Steve Klock, and Pan Am stories
56:00 – Training and living with Marines, Navy, and Army wrestlers; real poverty in Cuba
1:03:00 – Discovering the early UFC on VHS and recognizing Don Frye in the cage
1:10:00 – Working with Rico Ciparelli and RAW, integrating wrestling into MMA game plans
1:18:00 – Why Greco is the best base for MMA and learning to fight off the cage
1:26:00 – The James Toney fight, reviving the low single, and using “John Smith” tactics in MMA
1:34:00 – How setbacks (NCAA and Olympic trials) led to a bigger path than he imagined
1:42:00 – Faith, timing, mentors, and the small “corner” that really matters

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Doug Schwab joins the Full Tilt Podcast for a deep dive into Iowa wrestling culture, his days under Dan Gable, the brutal “I quit” practices, making World and Olympic teams, and building the Panther Train at UNI. Doug shares real coaching gold on culture, competition, and what it means to raise tough, grounded kids in the sport.

From small-town Osage roots and legendary rivalries, to Iowa’s dynasty rooms and the Olympic stage, Doug opens up about faith, failure, loyalty, and how he’s now guiding the next generation—including his own sons.

Timed Highlights
0:00 Opening story: the infamous “I quit” practice with Ironside
1:11 Full Tilt intro and welcoming Doug Schwab
1:27 Doug on living the wrestling lifestyle year-round
2:02 UNI’s wrestling room and making the most of what you have
4:39 Growing up Schwab in Osage, Iowa
5:23 What Iowa high school wrestling and “the Barn” felt like
8:23 Small-town rivalries and heated New Hampton–Osage battles
13:33 Transitioning into the Gable–Zalesky era at Iowa
15:03 First Iowa practice: getting destroyed by Ironside
18:10 Life inside the Iowa practice room and “rite of passage” beatdowns
20:18 The toughest guys Doug ever wrestled in the room
23:38 Real Pro Wrestling era and battles with Chris Bono
26:01 Learning to use rivals and emotions as fuel, not poison
29:50 Why relationships matter more than wins and losses
32:16 Taking over at UNI: coming in “hot and hard” as a young head coach
34:01 Early Panther guys who bought in and changed the program
38:18 How UNI built All-Americans and national champs like Drew Foster
40:39 Coaching philosophy: loyalty, development, and culture over credentials
42:39 The West Gym to MAT Club transition and keeping the team together
47:39 Filling McLeod, embracing growth, and honoring the West Gym
50:30 Doug as a dad: raising wrestlers without burning them out
56:33 Gap years, emotional maturity, and long-term development
1:02:03 Letting kids struggle and not “rescuing” them too early
1:08:30 Balancing dad vs. coach and playing the long game
1:18:04 Parker Keckeisen’s work ethic and impact on UNI
1:24:39 Building a staff that truly aligns with program values
1:33:18 What Doug wants his athletes to leave UNI with
2:03:40 Doug on pouring back into the sport and being in Iowa
2:08:30 Closing: friendship, gratitude, and the future of Panther Train

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Ben Askren sits down in his Wisconsin home to unpack how he reinvented wrestling, from basement mats and reluctant partners to NCAA dominance and world‑level technique. He breaks down scrambling’s evolution, the balance between family and coaching, why passion beats early results in recruiting, and how to keep kids hungry for the sport without burning them out.

Chapters

2:00 – The birth of the PNL league during COVID and its purpose

3:40 – No year‑round clubs, basement mats, and inventing “funk” out of necessity

6:30 – Letting partners almost score and teaching himself to scramble

8:40 – Illegal off‑season training with his high school coach and leveling up

10:20 – Why scrambling may decline and the rise of clean, efficient attacks

11:50 – Suits, briefcases, message boards, and antagonizing the crowd

13:40 – Chasing the takedown record and turning hate into fuel

18:20 – Building multi‑step systems and staying two moves ahead

22:20 – Updating his game today and importing new techniques for his athletes

23:50 – Coaching Evan Wick: stubbornness, cardio, and fixing real weaknesses

27:10 – Practice as a puzzle, not a script, and keeping kids engaged

31:30 – Empowering athletes to figure things out on their own

35:20 – The problem with year‑round youth grind and over‑coaching

37:30 – Who should really go Division I and why love for the sport matters most

39:40 – Choosing Missouri, buying into Coach Smith, and building a contender

41:50 – Dominant NCAA runs and being obsessed with bonus points

44:10 – Calling out lazy recruiting: results vs. passion and trajectory

50:40 – The best wrestlers Ben ever felt and the hidden training partner who beat him up

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Hatch sits down with Greco-Roman legend Dennis Hall for a raw look at one of the most intense careers in American wrestling. Hall talks about walking away from a full-ride at Wisconsin to chase Greco, going from 0–5 at early World events to World Champion, and the mindset work that helped him handle doubt, pressure, and pain.

He opens up about losing his brother and how that tragedy fueled his run to a 1995 World title, the heartbreak of the 1996 Olympic final in Atlanta, grinding through construction work and Home Depot while chasing another team, and the now-legendary 17-minute overtime war with Brandon Paulson at the 2004 Olympic Trials.

If you care about Greco, toughness, or what it really takes to chase greatness, this episode is for you.

Timed Highlights:
0:00 Opening story and intro to Dennis Hall
2:03 Why US Greco is struggling and who dominates it worldwide
8:47 Leaving Wisconsin and going all-in on Greco
15:20 Early World struggles, 0–5 start, and Dan Chandler’s mindset talk
24:41 First World medal in 1994 and learning to “take it out of the refs’ hands”
39:57 1995 World title run and winning gold on criteria
47:39 Losing his brother, quitting wrestling, and coming back for him
52:31 Building toward the 1996 Olympics and training with foreign hammers
1:02:42 Atlanta matches, rib injury, and making the Olympic final
1:08:30 1996 Olympic final, controversial lift, and living with silver
1:20:55 Working construction and staying elite while broke
1:22:06 Home Depot, John Bartis sponsorship, and one last Olympic push
1:28:21 Dropping a weight for 2004 and proving doubters wrong
1:36:53 17-minute overtime war with Brandon Paulson at the 2004 Trials
1:40:03 The winning takedown, celebration, and respect between two rivals

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