Most businesses are still catching up with the cybersecurity threats of five years ago. AI just moved the goalposts again.

In episode two of The Cybersecurity CEO Podcast, Robbie O'Brien sits down with Professor Kevin Curran, Professor of Cybersecurity at the University of Ulster and one of the most widely cited researchers in his field. Kevin is Executive Co-Director of the Legal Innovation Centre, a tech entrepreneur, and a passionate advocate for practical, real-world cybersecurity solutions.

Anthropic's Mythos model has changed the cybersecurity threat landscape permanently, and most businesses have no idea what that means for them yet. Robbie and Kevin cut through the noise on what AI-powered vulnerability discovery actually looks like in practice, why the controls that have always protected you still matter, and why the single biggest risk right now is leadership teams that are watching from the sidelines while the game changes around them.

If AI feels like a threat you haven't fully got to grips with yet, this episode is the right place to start.

About the guest:
Professor Kevin Curran is Professor of Cybersecurity at the University of Ulster, with over 13,500 citations and more than 1,100 peer-reviewed publications. He is Executive Co-Director of the Legal Innovation Centre and co-founder of Ultri. Find him here on X and on YouTube here.

About the host:
Robbie O'Brien is Co-Founder and Chairman of Safe Harbour Security and the founder of MetaCompliance. He has spent over 20 years helping private and public sector organisations build cyber resilience, and writes and speaks under the banner The Cybersecurity CEO. His forthcoming book, Cyber First: Security Above All, is due for release in September 2026.

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What happens to a business the moment its network goes dark?

In the first episode of The Cybersecurity CEO Podcast, Robbie O'Brien talks with Jane Frankland, MBE, a cybersecurity and leadership expert with nearly three decades in the industry. Jane built one of the world's first penetration testing firms and helped shape major industry initiatives including CREST and Cyber Essentials. She's best known for reframing cyber resilience as a leadership responsibility, not a technical one.

They discuss why the CISO has become what Jane calls the Chief Information Scapegoat Officer, carrying accountability for risks they often have no authority to fix. They cover the difference between security and resilience, how AI is widening the gap between finding vulnerabilities and fixing them, and what businesses can learn from car safety regulation when it comes to mandating cyber hygiene.

It all lands on one question every CEO should be asking: how badly do you want your business to survive a cyber breach?

If you lead a business or sit on a board, this one's for you.

About the guest:
Jane Frankland, MBE, is a cybersecurity and leadership expert and author trusted by boards, governments, and organisations navigating complex risk. She is currently writing a new book on cyber resilience and survivability for CEOs and boards. Connect with Jane at jane-frankland.com or on LinkedIn.

About the host:
Robbie O'Brien is Co-Founder and Chairman of Safe Harbour Security and the founder of MetaCompliance. He has spent over 20 years helping private and public sector organisations build cyber resilience, and writes and speaks under the banner The Cybersecurity CEO. His forthcoming book, Cyber First: Security Above All, is due for release in September 2026.

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