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Surgical Ergonomics

Surgical Ergonomics

By: Geeta Lal MD
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This podcast will discuss everything relating to surgical and procedural ergonomics i.e. the people, ideas and technology that will help enhance your physical wellness and career longevity.

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  • OR ergonomics from the scrub technologist perspective with Ms. Jeannette Wagner
    Apr 20 2026

    This episode of the podcast is sponsored by Smart Step Surgical LLC. You can learn about them and schedule a demo via https://www.smartstepsurgical.com/blogs/news/surgical-ergonomic-podcast-promotional-discount

    Disclosure:

    Smart Step Surgical is a paid sponsor and the affiliate link above supports the podcast at no cost to you. They also provide our podcast listeners with a discount (20%), so we hope that it is a win-win!

    Episode details:

    Ms. Jeannette Wagner is a Surgical Technologist and is Team Lead in the operating rooms at University of Iowa Health Care, Stead Family Children’s Hospital. She oversees multiple services along with scrubbing a large variety of surgeries. Her true passion is scrubbing pediatric cardiac and takes pride in being a part of the surgical team. An important part of her role as Team Lead is education for staff and training Surgical Technologists, as well as nurses to the scrub role. She is a dedicated and motivated professional with a passion for lifelong learning and personal growth. She is a member of the Scheduling Committee in her department and in the past was a member and chair of the UPC council for SFCH surgical department. Her personal interests include spending time with her family and 3 granddaughters, being out in nature and always willing to take on new challenges and expand her skills.

    In this episode Ms. Wagner:

    - Shares the MSK issues she has faced over her almost 30-year career as a scrub technologist, including needing surgery for carpal tunnel syndrome and a shoulder injury

    - Emphasized that there is a lack of education around ergonomics in the training of scrub technologists

    -Discusses data that shows OR nurses have high rates of MSK injuries when compared to nurses working in other hospital environments and that back injuries are the most common MSK issue

    - Describes some of the barriers to implementing ergonomic best practices among OR scrub staff

    - Provides tips on handling the power differential in the OR when it comes to utilizing ergonomic aids

    - Emphasizes how communication between surgeons and techs can ease access to the field and improve ergonomics for everyone


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    35 mins
  • How exoskeletons can improve ergonomics in the OR with Dr. Jackie Cha
    Apr 6 2026

    Dr. Jackie Cha is the Patricia Flatley Brennan Assistant Professor in the Department of Industrial and Systems Engineering at the University of Wisconsin – Madison. Her research focuses on measuring physical human-robot interactions, particularly in healthcare environments, to improve worker performance, safety, and system efficiency. Her team investigates applications of robotics – both surgical robotic systems and wearables – in clinical environments and the changes of physical and cognitive interactions between human teams and robots. Prior to joining UW-Madison, she served as an assistant professor at Clemson University. Her research has been funded by several sponsors such as the National Science Foundation (NSF) (including the NSF CAREER award), National Institutes of Health (NIH), and the Agency of Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ).

    In this episode Dr. Cha:

    - Explains what exoskeletons are and the difference between active and passive exoskeletions

    - Shares how exoskeletons have been used to reduce strain in industrial sectors (as PPE)

    - Describes why adapting exoskeletons to the OR is especially challenging i.e. due to the large physical and cognitive load intrinsic to OR work

    - Shares the work she and others have done evaluating exoskeletons for the OR both in the simulation environment and in actual OR rooms

    - Discusses the pros and cons of currently available exoskeletons in terms of adapting them to surgical work


    The Society of Surgical Ergonomics webinar on exoskeletons can be found here:https://www.societyofsurgicalergonomics.org/copy-of-video-library

    The recent study with qualitative and objective data with use of a neck/back exoskeleton can be found here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40201977/

    Dr. Jackie Cha can be reached via Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackiecha/


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    35 mins
  • Ergonomics for otolaryngologists and incorporating ergonomics into daily work with Rhinologist, Skull base surgeon and Physical therapist Dr. Raewyn Campbell
    Mar 23 2026

    This episode of the podcast is sponsored by Q-optics. You can learn about them, the special rates they are offering for podcast listerners and schedule a demo via : https://q-optics.com/pages/surgicalergonomics-drlal

    Disclosure:

    Q-optics is a paid sponsor and the affiliate link above supports the podcast at no cost to you. It also provides you with a discount and a giveaway to listeners of the podcast, so we hope that it is a win-win!

    Dr. Raewyn Campbell is an Associate Progessor and a rhinologist and skull base surgeon in Sydney, Australia. She is also a former physical therapist with a post-graduate diploma in exercise and sport science. She completed 3 international fellowships in Rhinology and Skull Base surgery in Auckland, NewZealand and Philadelphia and Columbus, USA. She holds leadership positions in multiple societies and is the the ENT research lead for the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital Institute of Academic Surgery and the ENT Associate Member Representative for the Australian Society of Clinical Immunology and Allergy (ASCIA). She is currently pursuing a PhD in ergonomics at The University of Sydney.

    In this episode, Dr. Campbell:

    - Discusses her journey from working as a physical therapist to then pursuing a career as an surgical subspecialist and now pursuing her PhD in Ergonomics

    - Describes the research she has done looking at MSK injuries among otolaryngologists, with high rates of injuries among rhinologists and skull base surgeons, which impact not only their work but also their lives outside the OR

    - Shares the common risk factors for MSK injury for her subspecialty including glove size, standing, case load, amount of exercise, time spent in clinic, female sex and BMI of the surgeon. Many of these are modifiable and are common to other specialties as well

    - Emphasizes strategies to incorporate ergonomics into OR practice such as keeping the patient as close to oneself as possible and tilting the bed as necessary, alternating foot use for the foot pedal, using anti-fatigue mats, wearing sport shoes, paying attention to the direction of the tubing, having the scrub assistant opposite to the surgeon and including microbreaks (for both physical and cognitive ergonomics)

    - Shares her strategies for incorporating ergonomics principles into clinic work

    - Discusses the importance of incorporating physical activity (stretching ans strengthening) inside and outside the OR

    - Describes new technologies on the horizon for surgeons working on the microscope, such as exoscopes and robotic surgery

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    44 mins
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