Steven Spielberg's Disclosure Day has become one of the most divisive films of the year—and it split the Sacred Frames hosts as well.

Mike Yeager sees Disclosure Day as a late-career masterpiece: a hopeful meditation on empathy, trauma, faith, and humanity's place in the cosmos. Jeff Cook had the opposite reaction, arguing that the film never earns its emotional weight, depends too heavily on Spielberg's past work, and ultimately fails to deliver on its philosophical ambitions. Sean Palmer lands somewhere in the middle, praising the filmmaking while wrestling with the story's themes and ending.

In this conversation, we explore:

*Does the movie have anything meaningful to say about faith, theology, and human nature?

*Does the ending work?

*What role do empathy, trauma, and redemption play in Spielberg's vision?

Along the way we discuss Close Encounters, E.T., A.I., The Fabelmans, Schindler's List, and the larger themes that have shaped Spielberg's career for decades. Whether you loved Disclosure Day, hated it, or are still trying to figure out what Spielberg was attempting, join us for a thoughtful—and spirited—conversation.

Science fiction may be our culture's most spiritual genre. In celebration of Disclosure Day, Jeff Cook, Mike Yager, and Sean Palmer hold a science fiction movie draft built around eight themes that sit at the intersection of faith, philosophy, and the future.

Cosmic Christ — The messianic figure who saves, sacrifices, redeems, resurrects, or carries unmistakable Christological themes.

To Infinity and Beyond — Humanity pushes beyond its limits and encounters the grandeur, mystery, wonder, or terror of creation itself.

Holy Communion — A transformative encounter with the Other. First contact that leads to understanding, revelation, friendship, or reconciliation.

Unholy Communion — First contact gone wrong. Possession, corruption, invasion, conquest, or destruction.

Imago Dei — Stories about creators and creation. Artificial intelligence, robotics, genetic engineering, and the question of what it means to make something in our image.

Apocalypse — Not merely destruction, but revelation. Worlds ending, systems collapsing, and hidden truths coming to light.

Kingdom Come — Visions of utopia and the future. Societies that promise salvation, perfection, or human flourishing—and the cracks that inevitably appear.

Wild Card — The category for everything too strange, beautiful, profound, or unique to fit anywhere else.

Along the way, the conversation touches on films such as Arrival, The Martian, Rogue One, Interstellar, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Ex Machina, Gattaca, Minority Report, Alien, WALL-E, and many more. What do our favorite science fiction stories reveal about sacrifice, hope, free will, creation, transcendence, and what it means to be human? Join us as we draft 24 films and explore the spiritual questions hidden inside some of cinema's greatest journeys into the unknown.

Is The Sheep Detective just a clever animated mystery—or something much deeper?

In this episode of Sacred Frames, Jeff Cook, Movie Mike Yager, and Sean Palmer explore one of the year's most surprising films. What begins as a charming murder mystery about a flock of sheep investigating the death of their beloved shepherd unfolds into a profound meditation on grief, memory, love, community, and what it means to become fully human. Along the way, the conversation touches on theology, storytelling, the role of remembrance in spiritual formation, the dignity of the outsider, and why some of the most important truths are best told through family films.