For our final episode of the season, Keri Ladouceur, Executive Director and Co-Founder of the Post Evangelical Collective, sits down with longtime pastor, and our podcast host, Fred Harrell, Executive Director of Cultivate Pastors and Churches, Inc.

Fred shares about his work walking alongside pastors and faith leaders who are seeking coaching, spiritual direction, or both. With 38 years of ministry experience, he reflects on the realities of pastoral leadership and the weight many leaders carry in this season. He talks about his desire to invest what he has learned into the lives of pastors navigating the complexity, isolation, and pressure of their calling.

This conversation offers both honesty and encouragement for those in ministry who are trying to lead faithfully while also tending to their own soul. If you are a pastor or leader in need of support, clarity, or companionship in the work, this episode is a reminder that you do not have to do it alone.

Learn more about Pastors and Churches, Inc. here: https://www.cultivatepastors.org/

Learn more about the Post-Evangelical Collective by visiting their website here: www.postevangelicalcollective.org

Register for the National Gathering here: http://postevangelicalcollective.org/events/national-gathering-2026

In this episode we talk to Cameron Vickrey, Director of Communications and Development for FaithWorks. FaithWorks is mobilizing Christians to practice compassion and pursue justice through a multiracial, cross-denominational network committed to building God’s beloved community.

In this conversation, Cameron shares how their work moves beyond good intentions into meaningful action. Through initiatives focused on immigration, Native issues, racial justice, and hunger, FaithWorks equips leaders to engage both direct service and systemic change. Their approach reflects a deep commitment to what they call bold advocacy and real impact.

Together, they explore how many post-evangelical leaders are seeking ways to live out their faith in tangible, justice-centered ways. FaithWorks offers a pathway for those who want to move from belief into embodied practice.

As leaders reimagine faith beyond evangelicalism, the call to compassion and justice remains central and urgent. If you are looking for ways to engage your faith in the world with clarity, courage, and community, this episode offers both vision and next steps.

Learn more about FaithWorks here: https://faithworks.com/

Learn more about the Post-Evangelical Collective by visiting our website here: ⁠www.postevangelicalcollective.org⁠

Register for the National Gathering here: http://postevangelicalcollective.org/events/national-gathering-2026

Today we get to talk to Chad Moore, Director of Enrollment at the Boston University School of Theology. Chad shares his passion for inviting curious, compassionate, and justice-minded leaders into a vibrant theological community. Many of those connecting with the School of Theology are on a journey similar to those in the Post-Evangelical Collective. They are thoughtful practitioners who have deconstructed former frameworks and are now seeking a safe and generative space to rebuild.

Together, they explore what it means to pursue theological education in this cultural moment. Boston University School of Theology offers a context where questions are welcomed, new frameworks can take shape, and students are equipped for ministry rooted in justice and compassion.

With a strong and accessible online presence, the School of Theology is able to meet students wherever they are, making this kind of formation available to a wider and more diverse community. This conversation highlights the importance of spaces where leaders can not only rethink their theology, but reimagine their calling. If you are discerning your next step or looking for a place to grow into a more expansive and grounded vision of ministry, this episode offers a compelling invitation.

Learn more about Boston University, School of Theology here: https://www.bu.edu/sth/

Learn more about the Post-Evangelical Collective by visiting our website here: www.postevangelicalcollective.org

Register for the National Gathering here: http://postevangelicalcollective.org/events/national-gathering-2026

Today we hear from Bill White, Executive Director of Small Church, Big Table. Their work focuses on helping faith communities navigate one of the most challenging and important questions of our time: how to become more welcoming of LGBTQ people. Rather than pushing a predetermined outcome, Small Church, Big Table creates a space where leaders can engage the process with honesty, courage, and care.

Bill shares how churches can move through this discernment in ways that are healthy and non-explosive, even in communities with deeply diverse viewpoints. By learning from others who have walked this road with wisdom and grace, leaders are able to find clarity for their own context.

As leaders reimagine ministry beyond evangelicalism, many are asking how to lead communities through change without fracturing relationships. If you are navigating questions of inclusion, unity, and faithful leadership, this episode offers a thoughtful and grounded path forward.

Learn more about Small Church Big Table here: https://smallchurchbigtable.com/

Learn more about the Post-Evangelical Collective by visiting our website here: www.postevangelicalcollective.org

Register for the National Gathering here: http://postevangelicalcollective.org/events/national-gathering-2026

In this episode we sit down with Rev. Megan Currie, Director of Admissions, and Rev. Dr. Greg DeLoach, Dean of McAfee School of Theology at Mercer University. Together, they explore what theological education can look like in this cultural moment. McAfee is committed to creating an inclusive environment where students are free to ask questions, think critically, and be treated with dignity and respect as they discern their calling.

They recognize that many students arrive having deconstructed evangelical frameworks. Rather than seeing that as a barrier, McAfee embraces it as part of the journey. Their work is to help students reconstruct a theology that is healthy, generous, and forward thinking for life and ministry.

Rooted in the belief that ministry begins with a calling, McAfee seeks to prepare leaders who will inspire the Church and the world to imagine, discover, and create God’s loving and just world. If you are discerning your next step in ministry or reimagining what formation could look like after evangelicalism, this episode offers a compelling vision of what is possible.

Learn more about McAfee School of Theology here: https://theology.mercer.edu/

Learn more about the Post-Evangelical Collective by visiting our website here: www.postevangelicalcollective.org

Register for the National Gathering here: http://postevangelicalcollective.org/events/national-gathering-2026

In this episode, we talk with Collin Packer, Director of Strategic Development with Let’s Talk Race Ministries. Their work focuses on engaging white Christians in the ministry of reconciliation and justice through education, inner work, and community. In this conversation, Collin names the deep formation required for that work to be authentic and sustained.

Together, we explore how many post-evangelical leaders are rethinking not only their theology, but their relationship to race, power, and justice. Collin emphasizes that this is not just intellectual work. It is spiritual and emotional work that requires honesty, humility, and ongoing transformation.

This conversation connects directly to the mission of the Post Evangelical Collective. If we are building new expressions of faith and leadership, they must be rooted in both justice and inner work. If you are committed to reconciliation but unsure what faithful engagement looks like in this moment, this episode offers a grounded and challenging path forward.

Learn more about Let’s Talk Race Ministries here: https://ltrministries.com/

Learn more about the Post-Evangelical Collective by visiting our website here: www.postevangelicalcollective.org

Register for the National Gathering here: http://postevangelicalcollective.org/events/national-gathering-2026

We had the gift of talking with Dr. David Gushee, Distinguished University Professor of Christian Ethics, at Mercer University’s McAfee School of Theology. We explore the growing reality many leaders face after leaving evangelical systems, including the loss of networks, denominations, and long-held partnerships, while still carrying a deep sense of calling.

Dr. Gushee speaks to this cultural moment with both clarity and hope. As more exvangelicals search for a place to land, the question is not only what they are leaving behind, but where they are being called next.

He points to the Post Evangelical Collective as a path forward. It is a space for thoughtful, justice-oriented leaders to reconnect, collaborate, and continue their work in new ways. He believes this cultural moment is a chance to recenter the moral teachings of Jesus for a new generation.

Learn more about David Gushee’s work here: https://www.davidpgushee.com/

Learn more about the Post-Evangelical Collective by visiting our website here: www.postevangelicalcollective.org

Register for the National Gathering here: http://postevangelicalcollective.org/events/national-gathering-2026

Today we sit down with Charles Kiser, D.Min, and Mallory Wyckoff, D.Min of the Healing Collective. Together, they explore the deep need for healing among post-evangelical leaders. Many have left systems that shaped them but also wounded them, and yet they continue to carry a call to serve.

Charles and Mallory invite us to consider that healing is not optional for this next season of leadership. It is essential. Through integrative practices that engage the body, mind, and spirit, they offer a vision of healing that moves beyond survival and into wholeness.

This conversation connects directly to the work of the Post Evangelical Collective. If leaders are going to build something new, they must also tend to what has been broken within them. If you are still called to serve but know there is healing work to do, this episode offers both language and a path forward.

Learn more about The Healing Collective here: https://www.thehealingcollective.space/

Find Charles’s book here: Trauma-Informed Evangelism: Cultivating Communities of Wounded Healers

Find Mallory’s book here: God Is

Learn more about the Post-Evangelical Collective by visiting our website here: www.postevangelicalcollective.org

Register for the National Gathering here: http://postevangelicalcollective.org/events/national-gathering-2026