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Okay, But... Birds

Okay, But... Birds

By: Dr. Scott Taylor
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Hosted by evolutionary biologist Dr. Scott Taylor, Okay, But... Birds explores the drama, brilliance, and science behind bird life. Each snackable 30-minute episode blends smart storytelling, expert interviews, and a touch of humor to reveal how birds shape our world . No jargon. No binoculars required. Just real science, quirky insights, and bird-brained drama you’ll want to share at brunch. Because birds aren’t background. Birds are cool.Okay Media Biological Sciences Science
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  • Okay, but are bird feeders helping or hurting?
    Apr 16 2026

    E19. More than 55 million Americans feed birds, and it's not exactly clear the birds asked us to. Dr. Olivia Sanderfoot, Research Scientist and Project Leader of FeederWatch at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, joins Scott to unpack what four decades of data tell us about whether feeding birds helps them, hurts them, or is really just for us.

    In this episode you'll hear about:

    • Why bird feeding is mostly for us, and the handful of moments when it actually tips the scales for birds
    • What forty years of FeederWatch data reveal about shifting ranges, feeder dominance, and the bird that definitely should not be bossing everyone around
    • How to keep your yard from becoming an ecological trap, plus the best way to feed birds that doesn't involve a feeder at all

    Ready to join the longest-running winter bird monitoring program in North America? Sign up for Project FeederWatch's 40th season at feederwatch.org. You don't even need a feeder.

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    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:

    • European robin audio contributed by Matthew D. Medler, ML140049
    • Cooper's hawk audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML94518
    • American crow video contributed by Jay McGowan, ML472843

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    33 mins
  • Okay, but what's in a bird's toolbox?
    Apr 9 2026

    E18. Turns out "bird brain" is less of an insult and more of a compliment. Scott sits down with Dr. Alex Kacelnik, Emeritus Professor at the University of Oxford, to dig into one of the most mind-bending questions in animal behavior: are birds actually building and using tools, or are we just projecting?

    In this episode you'll hear about:

    • The experiment that left researchers completely flabbergasted and rewrote what we thought we knew about animal intelligence
    • Why flexibility, not raw smarts, is the real test of a thinking mind
    • Whether the drive to use tools is something birds are born with, learn, or some surprising combination of both

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:

    • Woodpecker Finch audio contributed by Robert Bowman, ML82522
    • New Caledonian Crow audio contributed by Lucas DeCicco, ML188764
    • Hawaiian Crow audio contributed by Tim Burr, ML218670
    • Hawaiian Crow video contributed by Timothy Barksdale, ML425081
    • Kea audio contributed by William V. Ward, ML8523

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    32 mins
  • Okay, but do birds have culture?
    Apr 2 2026

    From sparrow songs that go viral across a continent to cockatoos that watch each other to learn how to open bins, Dr. Lucy Aplin, Australian National University / University of Zurich, studies how birds learn from each other and why it matters. Doing it for the culture? Yep. Birds are that impressive!

    In this episode you'll hear about:

    • How a new white-throated sparrow song spread over 3,000 kilometers in just two decades, replacing a tune that had been stable since the 1950s
    • The experiment that proved wild great tits can establish lasting cultural traditions through their social networks
    • Why losing a population of birds might also mean losing knowledge that took generations to build

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:

    • White-throated Sparrow audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML219799
    • White-throated Sparrow audio contributed by Jocelyn Lauzon, ML121581051
    • Great Tit audio contributed by Arnoud B. van den Berg, ML36198
    • Eurasian Sparrowhawk audio contributed by Ben F. King, ML335224
    • Regent Honeyeater audio contributed by Vicki Powys, ML223277
    • Pink-footed Goose audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML235508

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    35 mins
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