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NextGen Sales Leaders

NextGen Sales Leaders

By: Benjamin Aaron Reed
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Welcome to the NextGen Sales Leaders podcast, hosted by Entrepreneur, Founder, Investor, and multi-time Chief Revenue Officer Benjamin Reed. On this podcast, you'll hear how to scale B2B companies from $1 to +50 million/year. The goal is to equip you with the knowledge and skills to scale up your business with modern B2B outbound sales best practices from lead generation, revenue operations, sales team management, and more.

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Episodes
  • What's Really Happening in the B2B Data Market? AI, APIs & the New Data Economy ft Tom Blue
    Jun 22 2026

    Sponsored By RevyOps (The #1 GTM Data Management Platform):https://tinyurl.com/revyops-tom-blue-q

    Episode Summary:

    In this episode, Ben Reed sits down with Tom Blue, CEO and Founder of Quick Enrich and Lead411, to discuss the rapid evolution of B2B sales data and GTM technology. Tom shares how he built Lead411, why he launched Quick Enrich, and what’s driving the shift away from traditional data providers toward API-first solutions. The conversation covers data quality, email verification, GTM engineering, AI-powered workflows, and the future of sales intelligence in an increasingly automated world.

    What you'll learn:

    • How Tom built Lead411 from a simple funding newsletter into a leading sales intelligence platform
    • Why API-first data providers are gaining market share from traditional platforms
    • The differences between Lead411 and Quick Enrich
    • Why data quality and verification matter more than ever in outbound sales
    • How GTM engineers are changing the way sales teams access and use data
    • The role AI and tools like Claude Code are playing in modern sales operations
    • Why clean, unified data is foundational for future AI SDRs and autonomous agents
    • The economics behind email verification and enrichment providers
    • How data commoditization is impacting the sales intelligence market
    • The future of sales data, automation, and revenue operations

    Featured Guest:

    Tom Blue, CEO & Founder of Quick Enrich and Founder of Lead411

    Host:

    Ben Reed, host of the Next Gen Sales Leaders Podcast

    Episode Highlights:

    [00:01:00] Tom's background and the evolution from Lead411 to Quick Enrich

    [00:05:00] The shift from traditional sales intelligence platforms to API-first solutions

    [00:12:00] Data commoditization and the growing demand for enrichment services

    [00:16:00] How companies should evaluate data providers and test list quality

    [00:28:00] The rise of GTM engineers and AI-powered workflows

    [00:34:00] Email verification, BounceBan, and maintaining data accuracy

    [00:47:00] AI hype cycles, Claude Code, and the future of software development

    [00:55:00] Build vs. buy: the future of sales technology infrastructure

    Connect with Tom:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tombluelead411/

    Lead411: https://www.lead411.com/

    Quick Enrich: https://www.quickenrich.io/

    Follow Ben on Social:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-aaron-reed/

    Join our B2B GTM & RevOps Entrepreneur Community:

    https://www.skool.com/outbound-b2b-sales/about?ref=07a56393b2d2435d9366f2e6151e2600

    Sponsored By RevyOps (The #1 GTM Data Management Platform): https://tinyurl.com/revyops-tom-blue-q

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    1 hr and 19 mins
  • The Future of Sales Is Human ft Chris Booth
    May 30 2026

    Sponsored By RevyOps (The #1 GTM Data Management Platform): https://tinyurl.com/revyops-chris-b

    Episode Summary:

    In this episode, Ben Reed sits down with Chris Booth, Founder & CEO of Charm, to discuss authenticity, entrepreneurship, leadership, AI, and GTM engineering. Chris shares why elite performance comes from small optimizations, how authenticity drives better sales outcomes, and why self-awareness and focus are critical for business success. The conversation covers personal branding, AI tools, entrepreneurship, and building leverage in business and life.

    What you'll learn:

    • Why elite performance is built through the accumulation of small improvements
    • How authenticity, self-awareness, and personal branding drive stronger sales and leadership outcomes
    • Why sales, relationship-building, and entrepreneurship share the same foundational principles
    • The opportunities and risks of AI, GTM engineering, and automation tools like Clay and Claude Code
    • How constraints, leverage, and a focus on meaningful impact create long-term business success

    Featured Guest:

    Chris Booth, Founder & CEO of Charm, GTM strategist, entrepreneur, mentor, and advocate for authentic leadership and business growth.

    Host:

    Ben Reed, Host of the Next Gen Sales Leaders Podcast

    Episode Highlights:

    [00:01:00] The power of small optimizations in elite performance

    [00:04:00] Authenticity, sales, and personal branding

    [00:08:00] Self-love, leadership, and business growth

    [00:13:00] Lessons from entrepreneurship and relationship building

    [00:15:00] The evolution of personal brands in modern business

    [00:22:00] Why GTM agency owners share similar personality traits

    [00:27:00] Claude Code, Clay, and the future of GTM engineering

    [00:33:00] Creativity, constraints, and building leverage

    [00:42:00] Choosing the right business leverage at the right time

    [00:47:00] Chris's message to humanity: "Spread Love"

    Connect with Chris:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%A7%99-christopher-booth-216072127/

    Website: https://hirecharm.com

    Follow Ben on Social:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-aaron-reed/

    Join our B2B GTM & RevOps Entrepreneur Community: https://www.skool.com/outbound-b2b-sales/about?ref=07a56393b2d2435d9366f2e6151e2600

    Sponsored By RevyOps (The #1 GTM Data Management Platform): https://tinyurl.com/revyops-chris-b

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    53 mins
  • How Sean Malone Built an 8-Figure DM Empire
    May 23 2026

    Sponsored By RevyOps (The #1 GTM Data Management Platform): https://tinyurl.com/revyops-sean-malone

    Episode Summary:

    In this episode, Ben Reed sits down with Sean Malone, co-founder and CMO of Flowchat, to break down the future of social DM prospecting, LinkedIn automation, and AI-powered sales outreach. Sean shares his incredible entrepreneurial journey from struggling with cold calls and sales rejection to building multiple eight-figure businesses through direct messaging systems and scalable outbound frameworks. The conversation dives deep into LinkedIn automation safety, storytelling in sales, personal branding, AI-driven outreach, and the lessons Sean learned working alongside Russell Brunson. If you're looking to scale outbound sales, protect your LinkedIn account, and build predictable lead generation systems through social DMs, this episode is packed with actionable insights.

    What you'll learn:

    • Why LinkedIn DMs outperform traditional cold outreach channels
    • How Flowchat protects users from LinkedIn bans and account restrictions
    • The safest way to scale LinkedIn automation without triggering algorithms
    • Why personal branding is critical for successful outbound prospecting
    • Sean’s DM outreach benchmarks for scalable lead generation
    • How storytelling and the “hero’s journey” improve sales and marketing
    • The role of AI in modern sales outreach and personal DMs
    • What Sean learned inside Russell Brunson’s mastermind ecosystem

    Featured Guest: Sean Malone, Co-Founder & CMO of Flowchat

    Host: Ben Reed, host of the Next Gen Sales Leaders Podcast

    Episode Highlights:

    [00:01:00] Intro

    [00:03:00] LinkedIn automation tools and account safety

    [00:07:00] Understanding LinkedIn algorithms and outreach limits

    [00:10:00] Sean’s LinkedIn connection and response benchmarks

    [00:13:00] Sean’s journey into sales and early struggles

    [00:15:00] Growing businesses from millions to eight figures

    [00:17:00] Learning paid ads and discovering DM outreach

    [00:18:00] Working with Russell Brunson and building software companies

    [00:19:00] Building a high-ticket sales agency through DMs

    [00:23:00] Storytelling frameworks and the hero’s journey in sales

    Connect with Sean:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theseanmalone/

    Flowchat: https://flowchat.com

    Follow Ben on Social: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-aaron-reed/

    Join our B2B GTM & RevOps Entrepreneur Community: https://www.skool.com/outbound-b2b-sales/about?ref=07a56393b2d2435d9366f2e6151e2600

    Sponsored By RevyOps (The #1 GTM Data Management Platform): https://tinyurl.com/revyops-sean-malone

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    2 hrs and 1 min
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