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Let's Talk Loyalty

Let's Talk Loyalty

By: Paula Thomas
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“Let’s Talk Loyalty” is an industry podcast for loyalty marketing professionals. If you work in loyalty marketing, join us every week to learn the latest ideas and marketing insights from loyalty specialists around the world.Paula Thomas Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales
Episodes
  • Beyond the Points: What Loyalty Really Means | The Nudge Lab (#785)
    Jul 2 2026

    AI platforms are changing how customers discover brands.

    Phaedon is leading the discussion on what this fundamental shift means for loyalty leaders like you.

    Sign up for their live session at loyaltyinsiders.com.

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    Dr Kaveer Maharaj, CEO of The Nudge Lab, who holds a PhD in Loyalty and Behavioural Science joins Let's Talk Loyalty and Loyalty TV to challenge how the industry defines and measures loyalty.

    Together we explore whether "loyalty programmes" is even the right term, the three types of loyalty (including the one often overlooked), and why brands struggle to measure true customer value beyond transactions and points. The discussion also highlights key industry challenges, from capability gaps to quantifying emotional and behavioural loyalty in a commercially meaningful way.

    A thought-provoking conversation on whether the industry is truly measuring what matters.

    Hosted by Lisa Brightwell.

    Show Notes:

    1) Dr Kaveer Maharaj

    2)The Nudge Lab

    3)The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel

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    50 mins
  • Best of the Back Catalogue | Creating Emotional Connections That Last (#784)
    Jun 30 2026

    AI platforms are changing how customers discover brands.

    Phaedon is leading the discussion on what this fundamental shift means for loyalty leaders like you.

    Sign up for their live session at loyaltyinsiders.com.

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    This week, we revisit our conversation with Kim Hardaker Former Vice President of Loyalty & Partnership from Etihad Guest, now VP of Loyalty & Sustainability at Riyadh Air.

    Kim shares how Etihad Guest — with 7M+ members worldwide — evolved through unprecedented disruption, including the launch of its standout "World of Thoughtfulness" campaign.

    Show Notes:

    1)Kim Hardaker

    2)Etihad Guest

    3) #48: Etihad Guest - Loyalty Insights from Etihad Airways

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    34 mins
  • Epsilon: Driving Commercial Change Through Gamification (#783)
    Jun 25 2026

    This episode of Let’s Talk Loyalty and Loyalty TV is a Perfect Master Class in Gamification. We had the pleasure of talking to Mrinalini Chowdhary, Director of Strategy and Insights at EMEA Epsilon.

    Epsilon has been helping clients deliver loyalty objectives globally for more than 50 years. Epsilon Loyalty combines deep loyalty expertise with enterprise-grade technology to create growth-based programs that fundamentally change habits and deliver measurable long-term value to its clients.

    However, today's podcast is not about technology. It is not about points, tiers, business rules.

    It is about gamification, changing customer behavior through truly understanding consumer psychology.

    Hosted by Amanda Cromhout

    This episode is sponsored by Epsilon.

    Epsilon has been helping clients deliver on their loyalty objectives globally for more than 50 years. Today, Epsilon Loyalty combines deep loyalty expertise with enterprise-grade technology to create growth-based programmes that fundamentally change habits and deliver measurable long-term value.

    Show Notes:

    1)Mrinalini Chowdhary

    2)Epsilon

    3)Atomic Habits - James Clear

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    41 mins
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