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Lessons from the Playroom

Lessons from the Playroom

By: Lisa Dion
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The Synergetic Play Therapy Institute’s “Lessons From the Playroom” podcast is a series of audio and video recordings heard in over 100 countries. Every other week, Lisa shares her wisdom or is joined by special guests to explore some of the little lessons kids teach us that make a big difference in the play therapy process and offer ways to transform both you and the clients that you work with. Lisa Dion, LPC, RPT-S, is an international teacher, creator of Synergetic Play Therapy, founder and President of the Synergetic Play Therapy Institute, co-founder of the Synergetic Education Institute, creator of the Business of Therapy and host of the Lessons from the Playroom podcast. She is the author of Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach for Integrating Intensity and is the 2015 recipient of the Association for Play Therapy’s Professional Education and Training Award of Excellence.© 2015...2022 Synergetic Play Therapy Institute Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health
Episodes
  • Back to Our Roots: A Deep Dive into Experiential Play Therapy with Nilüfer Devecigil (Best of)
    Apr 14 2026

    In this special episode, Lisa reconnects with a long-time colleague, Nilüfer Devecigil, who joins her from Turkey. Nilüfer completed her master's degree in psychology in the US and worked closely with Byron and Carol Norton, the pioneers of Experiential Play Therapy. She's also the lead teacher for Experiential Play Therapy in Turkey. With extensive experience in attachment parenting and trauma healing, Nilüfer currently practices as a play therapist for young children and an attachment parenting therapist for pregnant women and new mothers.

    Listeners, you might not know that Experiential Play Therapy is one of the foundational models that influenced Synergetic Play Therapy. This conversation feels like we're going back to our roots a bit.

    Episode Highlights:

    • Lisa and Nilüfer's Journey: Discover how Lisa and Nilüfer met over 20 years ago, learning Experiential Play Therapy together.
    • Foundations of Experiential Play Therapy: Understand the philosophy and humanistic approach championed by Byron and Carol Norton.
    • Parent Involvement: Learn how parents are integrally involved in the therapeutic process, making it very relational.
    • Unique Aspects of Experiential Play Therapy: Explore what sets this modality apart, including the five stages of the therapeutic process and the use of themes and metaphors in play.
    • Active Participation in Play: Lisa shares her appreciation for the unique aspect of experiencing play alongside the child, fully engaging in the roles assigned by the child.
    • Healing Through Play: Hear how parents heal alongside their children through this model of play therapy.
    • Framework and Personal Focus: Discover how Nilüfer integrates her focus on attachment and relational work within the framework of Experiential Play Therapy.
    • Double Awareness in Play Therapy: Learn about the concept of dual or "double awareness" and its significance for both child clients and therapists.
    • Therapist's Own Work: Hear why it's so important for us as therapists to do our own therapeutic work.

    Experience Experiential Play Therapy through numerous examples and stories of how it works with child clients and their parents. Join us for an enlightening conversation that takes us back to the roots of Synergetic Play Therapy and gives a beautiful overview of this impactful therapeutic approach.

    If you would like to connect with Nilüfer Devecigil, follow her on her Instagram page here.

    *Original Air Date: August 6, 2024

    Podcast Resources:

    • Synergetic Play Therapy Institute
    • Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website
    • FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey
    • Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach to Integrating Intensity

    * If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcast, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and invite your friends/fellow colleagues to join us.

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    45 mins
  • Reconnecting to Our True Nature: A Transformative Conversation with Marie José Dhaese (Best of)
    Apr 7 2026

    Lisa welcomes back the remarkable Marie José Dhaese, a trailblazer in the field of play therapy and the original creator of expressive play therapies. Building on their previous conversation about Holistic Expressive Play Therapy, Lisa and Marie José dive even deeper into the profound journey of healing, attachment, and reconnecting to one's true nature. With over 50 years of experience as a registered clinical counselor, art therapist, and play therapy supervisor, Marie José shares her deep wisdom and heartfelt reflections on what it takes to create a therapeutic environment where children can reconnect to themselves and thrive.

    In this episode, you will explore:

    • The metaphor of the "white dot": Discover how this symbol represents our core essence or true nature, and why nurturing this inner light is central to healing.
    • Attachment and true nature: Understand how early attachment experiences shape a child's development, and how caregivers and therapists can reflect the child's true self back to them.
    • The role of trauma in disconnection: Learn how attachment disruptions and trauma sever a child's connection to their true self, and how therapy can help repair these ruptures.
    • The therapist's own journey: Hear how Marie José emphasizes the importance of therapists being on an ongoing journey of self-discovery and healing, and how this inner work allows them to hold space for others.
    • Creating an environment for transformation: Explore the significance of designing therapeutic spaces that invite safety, creativity, and how nature and expressive therapies play a vital role in transformation.
    • The importance of closure in therapy: Discover why creating a clear beginning, middle, and end in therapy sessions is essential for healing, and how a lack of closure can impact therapeutic outcomes.
    • Navigating the complexities of healing: Gain insight into the delicate balance therapists must maintain between structure and spontaneity, allowing children to explore, express, and reconnect with their true selves at their own pace.
    • Tending to your own "dot": Lisa and Marie José discuss the ethical imperative for therapists to engage in self-care, self-reflection, and self-compassion to remain present and attuned to their clients' needs.

    Join Lisa and Marie José for a thought-provoking and heartfelt conversation that will inspire therapists to reflect on their own journey, deepen their connection to their clients, and create spaces where true healing can unfold. This episode is filled with wisdom for those seeking to support children on their path to self-discovery and resilience.

    As mentioned in the podcast, explore Marie José's play sanctuary for children here: 💛 https://youtu.be/Lb20F3jF2nA?si=HSKWeTLQcrwlDtQn

    *Original Air Date: October 15, 2024

    Podcast Resources:

    • Synergetic Play Therapy Institute
    • Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website
    • FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey
    • Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach to Integrating Intensity

    * If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcast, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and invite your friends/fellow colleagues to join us.

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Beyond Labels: Cultivating Cultural Humility as Therapists with Liliana Baylon (Best of)
    Mar 31 2026

    In this insightful episode, Lisa welcomes back the incredible Liliana Baylon, a bilingual English and Spanish multicultural therapist and cultural ambassador for the Synergetic Play Therapy Institute. Building on their previous conversation about the experiences of immigrants and refugees, Lisa and Liliana delve into the evolving language and understanding around newcomers, which includes migrants, refugees, and asylum seekers.

    Liliana, who has over a decade of clinical experience primarily treating LatinX community members, shares her expertise on the complexities newcomers face beyond migration trauma, such as post-migration trauma, acculturation stress, and assimilation challenges. They discuss the misconceptions and biases that therapists might hold, the multi-faceted traumas newcomers endure, and the importance of creating a culturally aware and curious therapeutic environment.

    In this episode, you will learn about:

    • The shift from using terms like "migrants" to "newcomers" and the significance behind this change.
    • The global nature of issues faced by newcomers and common misconceptions.
    • The extensive range of traumas experienced by newcomers, including generational, cultural, racial, and educational traumas.
    • The impact of racism and bias on newcomers and how therapists can address these in their practice.
    • The concept of acculturation stress and its effects on mental health.
    • How to support newcomers by fostering curiosity and understanding their unique identities and experiences.
    • Practical tips for intake processes that honor the experiences and identities of newcomers.
    • The importance of relationship-building and staying curious as a part of the healing process.
    • Liliana's powerful TedEx talk about her personal experiences with assimilation and cultural identity.

    Join Lisa and Liliana for a heartfelt and educational conversation that will deepen your understanding and enhance your therapeutic practice with newcomers. Don't miss out on Liliana's wisdom and practical advice for creating a supportive and culturally aware therapeutic environment.

    "Beyond simple labels, such as Latina or Immigrant, our individual and collective identities encompass a range of experiences, aptitudes, and viewpoints that add to a complex and nuanced understanding of our shared humanity" - Liliana Baylon

    Find Liliana's powerful TedEx talk about her personal experiences of assimilation and cultural identity on her website at lilianabaylon.com.

    *Original Air Date: September 17, 2024

    Podcast Resources:

    • Synergetic Play Therapy Institute
    • Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website
    • FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey
    • Aggression in Play Therapy: A Neurobiological Approach to Integrating Intensity

    * If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcast, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and invite your friends/fellow colleagues to join us.

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    50 mins
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