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It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

By: The Overlap
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Summary

Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was.


Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world.


The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left.


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Episodes
  • The FA Cup & The Broken Neck | Bert Trautmann The Nazi POW & Man City Legend
    May 12 2026

    Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this week's episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper tell the remarkable story of Bert Trautmann — the former Nazi paratrooper who became Manchester City's beloved goalkeeper and an unlikely symbol of Anglo-German reconciliation. 70 years on from the legendary 1956 FA Cup final, Wilson and Draper trace Trautmann's extraordinary journey: from Hitler Youth member and fighting on the Eastern Front, to prisoner of war in England, to the man who played on with a broken neck at Wembley. They examine his teenage indoctrination, the atrocity he witnessed, that shattered his faith in Nazism and the 25,000 protesters at Maine Road. Along the way, they explore the brutal treatment of goalkeepers in this era and how three successive cup final incidents began to change the game's laws. Finally, they reflect on how a flawed, charismatic man became the perfect bridge between two nations.


    00:00 Jimmy Ashcroft and the Goalkeeper's Lot

    06:30 Hitler Youth — Trautmann's Indoctrination

    12:45 The Eastern Front

    19:20 Witnessing the SS Massacre

    25:00 Captured Three Times — Soviets, Americans, and a Cup of Tea

    27:10 Prisoner of War and the Accidental Goalkeeper

    34:50 Staying in England

    42:15 25,000 Protesters

    48:00 Winning Over Manchester

    53:40 The 1956 FA Cup Final — Playing On with a Broken Neck

    58:10 The Dangerous Life of the Goalkeeper

    01:03:20 Footballer of the Year and Personal Tragedy

    01:09:00 Burma, Women's Football, and an OBE

    01:14:30 The Perfect Symbol of Reconciliation

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    53 mins
  • "Can't Win Anything With Kids" Manchester United's 1996 Triumph
    May 5 2026

    Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this week's episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper revisit the 1995-96 Premier League season. 30 years on from one of the great title races. They trace Manchester United's unlikely triumph, beginning with the summer meltdown that saw Ince, Hughes, and Kanchelskis all depart, the infamous opening-day defeat to Aston Villa, and Alan Hansen's immortal verdict. From Cantona's Paris crisis and Ferguson's diplomatic dinner to Newcastle's flying start and that seemingly insurmountable 12-point lead, Wilson and Draper unpick every twist. They examine Schmeichel's heroics in the pivotal March showdown at St James' Park, the Tino Asprilla effect, the curse of the grey shirts at The Dell, and finally the extraordinary moment Kevin Keegan lost his composure on live television.


    00:00 Alan Hansen Sets the Scene

    06:30 The Summer Meltdown — Ince, Hughes, Kanchelskis

    12:45 Class of '92 and the Aston Villa Opener

    19:20 Cantona's Paris Crisis and Ferguson's Rescue Mission

    27:10 Newcastle's Flying Start and the 12-Point Lead

    34:50 The March Showdown at St James' Park

    42:15 Tino Asprilla and the Rodney Marsh Debate

    48:00 Liverpool 4, Newcastle 3 — The Moment It Turned

    53:40 The Grey Shirts and the Southampton Collapse

    58:10 The Mind Games Begin

    01:03:20 Keegan's Meltdown — "I Will Love It"

    01:09:00 United Win the League and the Double

    01:14:30 Why This Season Made the Premier League

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    56 mins
  • The Impossible Dream: Leicester City’s Premier League Win
    Apr 28 2026

    Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this week’s episode, co-hosts Jonthan Wilson and Rob Draper are joined by Sports Journalist and author Jonathan Northcroft to take a look 10 years on from that extraordinary and famous Premier League win! They frame the story around key pivot points, including the Valentine’s Day defeat at Arsenal and the self-belief it sparked, plus Ranieri’s unexpected decision to still grant the squad a holiday. Northcroft traces the longer build-up through the 2013 Watford play-off heartbreak, Nigel Pearson’s cross-department reset, the 2014 Championship-winning platform (and the later FFP breach), and the club’s smart recruitment and early data use that delivered players like Kanté, Mahrez and Okazaki. They cover Pearson’s departure after off-field incidents, the scepticism around Ranieri’s appointment, his “dilly ding” media touch, rivals’ crises, standout wins over Liverpool and Manchester City, Spurs’ chase, and the city’s all-in celebrations as the miracle became real.


    06:35 Origins of the Build

    10:39 FFP and the Promotion Debate

    11:35 Recruitment and Data Edge

    17:36 Kante and Mahrez Backstories

    22:22 Pearson Great Escape and Exit

    26:10 Ranieri Arrives Against the Odds

    27:46 Dilly Ding and Pizza Psychology

    35:24 Chelsea Chaos Unravels

    41:42 Big Clubs in Crisis

    45:02 Vardy Volley and City Statement

    47:37 Leicester Media Frenzy

    53:30 Spurs Pressure and Title Night

    59:19 Leicester Celebrates as One

    01:04:30 Bonkers Finale

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    1 hr and 5 mins
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