The very first episode of Second Half Conversations starts in the most meaningful way possible, with a story. Our story.

In this opening episode, Sondra sits down with Nathan Ziegler, founder of the firm, for a conversation that’s personal, honest, and deeply human.

Nathan shares what it was like growing up in Lubbock, working his way through school running a lawn business, and the path that led him—step by step—into Estate Planning and Elder Law.

But beyond the milestones, this is a conversation about why.

Why this work matters.
Why he calls it “Happy Law.”
And why helping families protect what they’ve built is something he feels deeply responsible for.
It’s a real conversation about purpose, family, and the experiences that shape the way we care for others, and the people we serve.

Highlights from this episode:

Nathan’s journey from modest beginnings to founding the firm

• The story behind “Happy Law” and what it really means
• How personal experiences shaped his approach to estate planning and elder law
• Why thoughtful planning can make a meaningful difference for families
• The values that guide the firm’s work and client relationships

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