Episodes

  • Is China Getting Worried About AI?
    May 29 2026

    In this episode of the High Capacity podcast, I talk with Matt Sheehan, Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment, about the next phase of the US-China AI race: AI safety, open-source models, AI agents, job displacement, and what the US and China might discuss with each other.


    As the U.S. and China prepare for formal talks on AI, both sides are wrestling with a fast-changing technology landscape. The U.S. is increasingly worried about frontier model risks, cyber threats, non-state actors, and pre-release testing. China, meanwhile, is becoming more concerned about AI’s impact on jobs, social stability, political control, and the rise of autonomous AI agents.


    We discuss what China really fears about AI, why Beijing’s AI governance strategy is shifting from control to deployment to broader regulation, how open-source AI might complicate safety talks, and what realistic US-China talks on AI might look like.


    Topics covered:

    U.S.-China AI talks, AI safety, Chinese AI policy, AI agents, OpenClaw, open-source AI, frontier models, cyber risk, AI job displacement, China’s AI regulations, autonomous weapons, AI hotlines, and the future of AI governance.


    Links:

    - Matt Sheehan’s Substack

    - Matt Sheehan’s Carnegie page

    - “China is getting worried about AI & jobs”

    - “China Is Worried About AI Companions. Here’s What It’s Doing About Them.”

    - Matt Sheehan on Twitter: @mattsheehan88


    For transcripts and more, check out the ⁠High Capacity newsletter⁠

    More about the host, Kyle Chan, fellow at Brookings

    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 4 mins
  • How China is Rewriting the Rules of AI Healthcare with Dr. Ruby Wang
    May 22 2026

    China’s biotech and healthcare sectors are evolving at extraordinary speed — from AI-powered “doctor avatars” and digital health super apps to a wave of Chinese drug innovation reshaping the global pharmaceutical industry.

    In this episode, I speak with physician and healthcare strategist Dr. Ruby Wang about the latest trends in China's AI + healthcare innovation.We discuss:

    • Why Western pharma companies are rushing to license Chinese drugs
    • China’s rise as a global biotech powerhouse
    • AI doctors, digital hospitals, and health super apps
    • The role of Alibaba, Ant Group, and DeepSeek in healthcare
    • Why China’s healthcare digitization is moving faster than the West
    • The future of AI in medicine and diagnosticsChinese medical devices, robotics, and healthcare hardware
    • How Chinese regulators accelerated biotech innovation
    • Whether healthcare can become China’s next major global export industry
    • The challenges China still faces in healthcare access and inequality

    Ruby Wang is a UK-trained physician, founder of China Health Pulse, and author of the upcoming book China Cure, which explores the global impact of China’s biotech and AI healthcare advances.

    Links:

    China Health Pulse newsletter and podcast: https://www.chinahealthpulse.com/

    For transcripts and more, check out the ⁠High Capacity newsletter⁠: https://www.highcapacity.org/

    More about the host, Kyle Chan: https://www.kyleichan.com/

    Show More Show Less
    56 mins
  • Is China Building the Next NVIDIA? China's Semiconductor Industrial Policy with Paul Triolo
    May 12 2026

    China is racing to build its own complete semiconductor industry, from AI chips and fabs to chipmaking tools like EUV lithography machines. I'm joined by industry expert Paul Triolo.


    00:28 China’s Semiconductor Self-Reliance Push

    11:50 How Huawei Became China’s Chip Champion

    17:37 Huawei, SMIC, and the Fight for Fab Capacity

    24:14 Can China Build Its Own EUV Lithography Machines?

    36:55 DeepSeek, Huawei, and China’s AI Chip Feedback Loop

    53:53 Why Chinese Tech Giants Are Designing Their Own Chips


    Links:

    • American Affairs: “Innovation Under Pressure: China’s Semiconductor Industry at a Crossroads”
    • Paul Triolo on X: @pstAsiaTech
    • Paul Triolo's Substack: AIStackDecrypted

    For transcripts and more, check out the ⁠High Capacity newsletter⁠.

    Hosted by Kyle Chan

    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 6 mins
  • China and AI Supply Chains with TP Huang
    Apr 28 2026

    In this special crossover episode, I talk with TP Huang about the broader AI supply chain beyond just models and chips. We cover the new DeepSeek V4 model and China’s efforts to integrate with domestic AI chips. We talk about energy infrastructure, like inverters and transformers. And we discuss the robotics supply chain and how this overlaps with smartphones, EVs, and other industries in China.

    Note: TP Huang is not on video, just audio.

    00:00 Intro

    01:13 DeepSeek V4 and Huawei chips

    13:01 Hardware and Infrastructure Bottlenecks

    21:03 Energy supply chain

    29:58 Edge AI and small models

    35:14 Embodied AI and robotics

    39:14 China's robotics supply chain

    45:43 Different tech paths

    53:32 Commercializing scientific advances

    58:44 Personal journeys in China tech

    Links:

    • Follow TP Huang on Twitter / X
    • TP’s Substack and China Tech Talk podcast

    For transcripts and more, check out the High Capacity newsletter.

    I'm your host, Kyle Chan, a Fellow at Brookings.

    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 12 mins
  • Z.ai: Inside a Top Chinese AI Lab
    Apr 7 2026

    This episode, I talk with Zixuan Li at Z.ai, one of China's top AI labs and the company behind the popular GLM models. Zixuan is Z.ai's Director of Product for genAI strategy and global partnerships. We discuss Z.ai's newest flagship AI model, the challenges of building agentic AI models, and what their longer AI strategy looks like.

    00:00 Intro to Zixuan Li of Z.ai

    00:29 GLM-5.1, Z.ai's Newest Flagship Model

    04:34 Long Horizon Tasks

    08:33 GLM Family of Foundation Models

    14:30 Challenges in Developing Agentic AI Models

    19:37 Working with Chinese AI Chipmakers

    22:53 Open Source vs. Proprietary Models

    36:49 Life After IPO and Chasing AGI

    41:37 Z.ai's Global Strategy

    Links:

    • Z.ai
    • GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks
    • Zixuan on X/Twitter

    For transcripts and more, check out the High Capacity newsletter.

    Show More Show Less
    48 mins
  • China's Tech Strengths & Weaknesses with Rui Ma
    Apr 1 2026

    Rui Ma, founder of Tech Buzz China, explains the real sources of China's tech strengths and where the US still has the advantage. From industrial parks to capital markets, we talk about how to understand China's tech landscape at a deeper level -- and why so many people are eager to tour Chinese factories.Links:

    • Tech Buzz China
    • Tech Buzz China newsletter
    • Rui Ma on X / Twitter

    For transcripts and more, check out the High Capacity newsletter

    Show More Show Less
    58 mins
  • China's New AI Wave: Agents, Open Source, OpenClaw and More with Tom Wang at Hugging Face
    Mar 19 2026

    Tom Wang, Hugging Face's head of APAC ecosystem, joins me to talk about the latest wave of Chinese AI models, how China's AI open source ecosystem works, the rise of AI agents and OpenClaw in China, and more.Links:- Tom Wang on Twitter / X- Tom Wang on Hugging FaceFor transcripts and more, check out the High Capacity newsletter

    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 1 min
  • How China is Riding the Open Source Wave with Kevin Xu
    Mar 10 2026

    From DeepSeek to Kimi, China's open-source AI models have gotten all the attention. But open source has a much longer history in China, according to Kevin Xu, former head of global expansion strategy at GitHub. Kevin takes us on a journey through China's open source evolution, from its grassroots beginnings to its central role today in China's AI strategy. We also get into the current OpenClaw craze in China and why Chinese tech firms seem to be jumping in faster than their American peers.


    00:00 Intro to Kevin Xu

    04:21 Early days of Chinese open source

    16:11 1024 Programmers' Day and 996.ICU

    27:33 Huawei enters the game

    41:57 DeepSeek moment

    51:17 China's OpenClaw frenzy

    56:40 Will China keep doing open-source?


    Links:

    • Chinese Open Source: A Definitive History
    • Kevin Xu's Interconnected newsletter
    • Interconnected Capital
    • Kevin Xu on Twitter / X

    For transcripts and more, check out the High Capacity newsletter

    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 5 mins