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Grow or Go

Grow or Go

By: Chris Jones and Matt Silasiri
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We talk about Surfing the Sigmoid Curve. Or in other words: how everything, and everyone will experience inception, growth, maturity, and finally decline. But how do businesses, products, or people continue to grow both personally and professionally? We interview founders, business owners, professionals, and growth-minded individuals who have found success. And they share how they made it happen. We have 1 rule. Don't. Be. Boring. Hosted by Chris Jones, CEO, and co-owner of the largest business brokerage firm in the US, and Matt Silasiri, VP of Business Development. https://www.tnma.comChris Jones and Matt Silasiri Economics Leadership Management & Leadership
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  • Ep 44. - Building & Exiting an In-Home Healthcare Company in Minnesota - Burhan Ali
    May 27 2026

    It takes guts and a whole lot of sacrifice to build a business right out of college. But for those who have the grit and determination, like Burhan Ali, anything is possible.

    Apex Home Care, now Amivie, is a staple in the Minneapolis community that helps individuals stay independent and comfortable in their own space. The business went through some major changes that resulted in exceptional growth, but getting there wasn't easy.

    Hear Burhan's story about why him and his sister took the leap of faith to bet on themselves, and how it set them up to pursue their dreams.


    Check out Burhan's new business! Sabah Coffee

    Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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    45 mins
  • Ep. 43 - A Founder's Story: Starting, Building & Exiting a Type 3 Student Transportation Company - Christian Olson
    May 11 2026

    What's it like leaving a safe, salaried job to start your own business? Not everyone understands the risks it takes, but sometimes the cards you are shown just make sense, and taking that risk is the answer.

    Christian Olson took the leap once he realized there was a real need for better student transportation services. No solution is that easy, however. Mix in Covid, uncertainty, complete demand decline, and just trying to keep the lights on.

    Christian explains his whole story about how Transportation Delivery Inc. came to life, grew, and eventually sold. Now Christian helps business owners mitigate their operating expenses, allowing more money to transfer to the bottom line.

    Connect with Christian here.

    Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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    35 mins
  • Ep. 42 - A Founder's Story: Starting, Growing, and Exiting a Collision & Glass Business - Craig Carlson
    Apr 24 2026

    This one is for all of you automotive gurus, the grease monkeys, the ones that want to work on cars all day long. Craig Carlson joins us as a founder, an owner, and now seller of the successful Carlson's Collision & Glass.


    Just like any business owner, Craig started at the bottom. Borrowing as much money as the banks would allow him to start his own shop. His journey of blood, sweat, and tears is what has now allowed him to retire and live out his other dreams.


    If you want to learn more about exiting your business, and how planning ahead will make your experience smoother, contact Matt Silasiri below. Check in where your business currently lays in the market, and review the Value Drivers that will help you improve your business.

    Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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    45 mins
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