"Cognitive" Interweaves in EMDR: From Scripts to Relational Process
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In this return to our Back to Basics series, we’re diving into one of the most misunderstood—and often over-scripted—parts of EMDR therapy: interweaves.
If you were trained to think of interweaves as something you “pull out of a list” when a client gets stuck, you’re not alone. But what if interweaves aren’t about saying the right thing… and instead about understanding what the system needs next?
In this episode, we explore:
- What interweaves are actually doing in the brain and nervous system
- Why “cognitive interweaves” are only part of the story
- How stuckness in EMDR often reflects deeper relational and developmental patterns
- The difference between interrupting processing vs. supporting movement
- How to move from rigid scripts to relational, somatic, and intuitive interweaves
- Why some interweaves increase distress—and why that’s not a failure
We walk through core categories from Francine Shapiro's EMDR: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures (responsibility, safety, and choice), while also expanding into a more integrative framework that includes:
- Somatic interweaves
- Affective interweaves
- Relational and resource-based interweaves
You’ll also hear real clinical reflections on:
- Why “I’m confused…” doesn’t always land
- How metaphor, imagery, and even humor can unlock stuck processing
- When to stay out of the way… and when your presence matters most
Ultimately, this conversation reframes interweaves not as a technique—but as a relational intervention grounded in attunement, timing, and case conceptualization.
If you’ve ever found yourself thinking:
“What do I say right now?”
This episode will help you shift toward:
“What does my client’s system need right now?”
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