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Code. Deploy. Go Live.

Code. Deploy. Go Live.

By: Andrew Connell & Julie Turner
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 Welcome to the Code. Deploy. Go Live. podcast! By Microsoft MVPs Andrew Connell and Julie Turner, our mission is to deliver prescriptive guidance on Microsoft 365 and Azure for Full-Stack Developers. Get the latest news, discussions, and interviews on topics ranging from Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, and related topics. For developers, by developers!© 2025 Code. Deploy. Go Live. Politics & Government
Episodes
  • 031 | Microsoft 365 Copilot Extensibility: Declarative Agents, Custom Engines, and Work IQ with Microsoft's Paolo Pialorsi

    031 | Microsoft 365 Copilot Extensibility: Declarative Agents, Custom Engines, and Work IQ with Microsoft's Paolo Pialorsi
    May 6 2026

    Microsoft 365 Copilot Extensibility: Declarative Agents, Custom Engines, and Work IQ with Microsoft's Paolo Pialorsi

    In this episode, Andrew and Julie sit down with Paolo Pialorsi at a Microsoft conference to explore Microsoft 365 Copilot extensibility and the newly announced Work IQ platform. They dive into the three pillars of Copilot extensibility: declarative agents (which leverage Copilot's foundational models and orchestrator), custom engine agents (which give you full control over the model, orchestrator, and customization), and AI apps built with Work IQ that operate outside the Copilot UI. Paolo breaks down how Work IQ differs fundamentally from Microsoft Graph by adding context, memory, and business understanding on top of data, then shares practical guidance on choosing the right path for your scenario.

    The conversation covers the microservices-style multi-agent architecture using the agent-to-agent protocol, the Work IQ chat API versus retrieval API, responsible AI guardrails, licensing considerations, and the upcoming Copilot Showroom tool that lets developers explore these APIs without building a full solution. Whether you're getting started with Copilot extensibility or trying to understand when to move from declarative agents to custom engine agents, this episode gives you the mental models and decision trees you need.

    🔗 LINKS
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    🔗 A Closer Look at Work IQ
    🔗 Work IQ overview
    🔗 Overview: Declarative agent
    🔗 Paolo Pialorsi on LinkedIn

    📺 Watch the episode: https://youtu.be/KZf7KBb7Ga4

    🎙️ PODCAST
    🔗 https://codedeploygo.live, LinkedIn, Bluesky

    🎙️ HOSTS
    Julie Turner
    Andrew Connell: LinkedIn, YouTube, Bluesky, Newsletter

    SPONSORS
    Sympraxis (by Julie Turner) 🔗 Ask Sympraxis 🔗 YouTube
    Voitanos (by Andrew Connell) 🔗 LinkedIn 🔗 Bluesky

    Music Credit: Ken Bagley

    • (02:16) - MICROSOFT 365 COPILOT EXTENSIBILITY FUNDAMENTALS
    • (07:00) - Declarative Agents vs Custom Engine Agents
    • (13:16) - Understanding Licensing and Architectural Decisions
    • (19:47) - Introducing Work IQ
    • (25:01) - Work IQ vs Microsoft Graph
    • (32:17) - REST APIs and the Copilot Showroom Tool
    • (39:23) - Resources and Closing Remarks
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    44 mins
  • 030 | M365 Copilot Declarative Agents Level Up: MCP Apps, Embedded Knowledge & Coding Skills

    030 | M365 Copilot Declarative Agents Level Up: MCP Apps, Embedded Knowledge & Coding Skills
    Apr 22 2026

    In this episode, Andrew and Julie dive into the latest updates to the declarative agent developer experience in Microsoft 365 Copilot. Andrew walks through what's shipped since Ignite 2025 — including the GA of MCP apps support (which lets agents respond with interactive UI widgets instead of just text), embedded knowledge that packages up to 20 files directly into an agent, and the new AI coding assistant skills under the Work IQ banner that help Claude Code, GitHub Copilot, and Codex better understand declarative agent projects. Along the way, they swap stories about using Claude Code to modernize an older SharePoint Framework session, weigh in on where MCP apps could take line-of-business solutions, and share picks covering the Artemis II mission and the 2026 World Nature Photography Awards.

    🔗 LINKS
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    🔗 Webinar: Supercharge Your Microsoft 365 Dev Workflow with Claude Code (May 21, 2026)
    🔗 Webinar: Microsoft 365 Copilot Developer's Guide to Declarative Agents (April 15, 2026)
    🔗 Workshop: Build Declarative Agents for Microsoft 365 Copilot
    🔗 What's New for Microsoft 365 Copilot Declarative Agents — April 2026

    🎁 Picks
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    Andrew's Pick(s)
    🔗 NASA: Moon Base Architecture User's Guide (PDF)
    🔗 Hank Green: Explaining the Most Important Artemis II Photos

    Julie's Pick(s):
    🔗 2026 World Nature Photography Awards Winners (Popular Science)
    🔗 World Nature Photography Awards — Official Store

    📚 CHAPTERS
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    • (00:00) - Introduction
    • (00:34) - Conference prep & upcoming events
    • (02:10) - Julie's Claude Code win modernizing an SPFx session
    • (05:43) - Andrew's Teams walkie-talkie sync solution
    • (06:26) - Artemis II mission excitement
    • (07:26) - DECLARATIVE AGENTS: DEV EXPERIENCE UPDATES
    • (08:36) - Baseline: what shipped at Ignite 2025
    • (11:09) - MCP Apps support goes GA
    • (22:19) - Embedded knowledge for agents
    • (29:48) - AI coding assistant skills (Work IQ)
    • (38:52) - AC'S & JULIE'S PICKS


    🎙️ PODCAST
    🔗 https://codedeploygo.live, LinkedIn, Bluesky

    🎙️ HOSTS
    Julie Turner
    Andrew Connell: LinkedIn, YouTube, Bluesky, Newsletter

    SPONSORS
    Sympraxis (by Julie Turner) 🔗 Ask Sympraxis 🔗 YouTube
    Voitanos (by Andrew Connell) 🔗 LinkedIn 🔗 Bluesky

    Music Credit: Ken Bagley
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    48 mins
  • 029 | Inside PnPjs: Open Source at Enterprise Scale with the Library Maintainers

    029 | Inside PnPjs: Open Source at Enterprise Scale with the Library Maintainers
    Apr 8 2026
    In this episode, Andrew and Julie sit down with Beau Cameron and Patrick Rodgers, two of the core maintainers of PnPjs, for the podcast's first guest interview. PnPjs is a client-side TypeScript library that wraps both the SharePoint REST and Microsoft Graph APIs into a fluent, developer-friendly interface. With 38,000 tenants relying on the library and handling roughly 38 billion requests per month, PnPjs has become one of the most mission-critical open source projects in the Microsoft 365 ecosystem. The conversation digs into the real challenges of maintaining a library at that scale, including architectural decisions like the elegant Timeline design, controversial API choices around URI escaping and the Pages API, and what it means to be responsible stewards of an open source project by refusing to wrap unsupported or reverse-engineered endpoints. You'll also get a peek at what's coming in v5, which Beau and Patrick describe as a maintenance-focused release aimed at improving code coverage, test execution, and expanding Microsoft Graph API coverage.The hardest part of maintaining PnPjs isn't the code itself, it's maintaining trust. Beau, Patrick, and Julie explore the tough decisions they've had to make as maintainers, from dropping support for legacy v2.1 endpoints to pushing back against shipping features that don't quite work right. Whether it's understanding the design tradeoffs baked into the Timeline architecture, wrestling with the extensibility of behaviors and virtual events, or grappling with the consequences of being used at such massive scale, this episode offers genuine insight into what it takes to steward a library that countless developers depend on every single day.🔗 LINKS=================================================🔗 NASA Artemis II Mission🔗 Two Outlook Instances Running on Artemis🔗 PnPjs GitHub Repository🔗 PnPjs Documentation🎁 Picks=================================================Patrick's Pick(s):🔗 De Buyer Mineral B Carbon Steel Fry PanBeau's Pick(s):🔗 Colorado Fruit Farmers Revive Heirloom Apple OrchardsAndrew's Pick(s):🔗 Claude Code UnpackedJulie's Pick(s):🔗 SP Rest Explorer by Sergei Sergeev🎙️ PODCAST🔗 https://codedeploygo.live, LinkedIn, Bluesky🎙️ HOSTSJulie TurnerAndrew Connell: LinkedIn, YouTube, Bluesky, Newsletter🎙️ GUESTSPatrick Rodgers: LinkedIn, BlueskyBeau Cameron: LinkedIn, Bluesky, SiteSPONSORSSympraxis (by Julie Turner) 🔗 Ask Sympraxis 🔗 YouTubeVoitanos (by Andrew Connell) 🔗 LinkedIn 🔗 BlueskyMusic Credit: Ken Bagley
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    1 hr and 6 mins
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