You know that leader who does it all - makes every decision, holds every piece, approves everything before it goes out the door?

This week on The Impact List, Laurie sits down with Debbie Lariviere, the founder and head coach of Monter Coaching and host of the Real Estate Leadership Unlocked podcast.

They talk about what it costs to keep doing everything yourself, how to tell the difference between delegating a task and actually transferring ownership.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• The difference between a job and a business
• What "transfer of ownership" really means (and why delegation isn't the same thing)
• How to hire for who you actually are, not who you think you should be

We talk about:

00:00 - The thing that built your business is now capping it
02:30 - Debbie's background: from agent to CEO to coach - and why it was never really a real estate story
04:00 - Is this a business or is it a job? The question that changes everything
06:00 - When the person who can do it all becomes the person standing in the way
07:30 - Holding on is a disservice: the reframe that shifts how leaders see letting go
09:00 - The financial fear behind not hiring and Debbie's practical 60-day framework
11:00 - Hiring to your weaknesses isn't enough.
17:30 - Delegation vs. transfer of ownership - what the difference actually looks like in practice
19:30 - The 30-60-90 ownership model: how Debbie builds accountability from day one
21:00 - Building confidence in your team
24:30 - The early warning signs a leader has become the bottleneck
26:00 - Progress over perfection: when a 90 is an A and you need to let it go
30:00 - What leaders are most resistant to letting go of
34:00 - The walk-and-talk method and why clearing your head is a leadership strategy

Connect with Debbie

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbielariviere/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/montercoaching/
• Podcast: https://montercoaching.com/real-estate-leadership-podcast/
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@montercoaching/
• Website: https://montercoaching.com/

Connect with me

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dynamicalchemyadvisors
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dynamic-alchemy-advisors/
• Personal LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauriefainer/
• Website: https://amplified-authenticity.com/

Music created and produced by Riley Fouchier, DarkSky Productions

#DelegationSkills #ScalingYourBusiness #RealEstateLeadership

You know the person who's working against you? The one where the tension is real, the dynamic is off, and neither of you is saying it out loud?

Michael Murphy was that person for Laurie. And instead of letting it become permanent, they named it. What happened next shaped the kind of leader Michael became and the kind he now deliberately builds around him.

Michael Murphy is a Partner and AI Operating Model Lead at ADAPTOVATE, a global consultancy helping large organizations build the agility to drive transformation. He spent two decades inside some of the most complex change environments in North America and Europe, including senior roles at Deloitte's Human Capital practice where he led agile transformations across Canada, the US, and Germany and co-authored Deloitte's Global Adaptable Organization Methodology.

In this episode, they get into his "Consulting Scared Straight" framework, what the apprenticeship model looks like when AI is reshaping the entry-level path, and why the legacy that actually matters has nothing to do with the PowerPoints.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• Why the leaders who admit failure build more trust than the ones who pretend they don't have it
• Why the entry-level consulting path looks fundamentally different in the AI era
• The General McChrystal decision-making approach
• What "finding your people" has to do with followership, retention, and the kind of legacy worth leaving
• Why humour is a trust-building tool and how to use it deliberately without losing the room

We talk about:

• 00:00 Where Michael and Laurie started
• 05:00 The pressure cooker of early consulting life and the bad behaviors it breeds
• 10:00 Learning to have the trade-off conversation: saying no without losing credibility
• 12:00 The "Consulting Scared Straight" deck: what it is, who sees it, and why Michael built it
• 15:00 Why the apprenticeship model is broken in a virtual world and what replaces it
• 20:30 Modeling vulnerability, running retros, and the social contract of rolling up your sleeves
• 22:00 Using humor deliberately to build trust and diffuse threat inside client organizations
• 28:00 What the consulting apprenticeship path looks like now compared to when Michael started
• 30:00 Why AI won't kill consulting, and what it will kill
• 33:00 The messy human work that technology still can't do
• 35:00 The legacy that actually matters (hint: it's not the PowerPoints)

Connect with Michael

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmurphyto/
• Website: https://www.adaptovate.com/

Connect with me

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dynamicalchemyadvisors
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dynamic-alchemy-advisors/
• Personal LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauriefainer/
• Website: https://amplified-authenticity.com/

Music created and produced by Riley Fouchier, DarkSky Productions

What if the most powerful thing a leader can do... is stop?

In this episode of The Impact List, Laurie Fainer sits down with Caroline Baird, HR executive, leadership strategist, and holistic coach with more than 30 years of experience inside some of the largest organizations in North America. Caroline has held senior HR leadership roles inside multi-billion dollar companies, sat at the table for complex culture challenges, and now runs her own practice working with executives and leadership teams at the intersection of strategy, culture, and what she calls somatic leadership.

This conversation gets into what's actually happening to leaders right now - the exhaustion that gets misread as burnout, and why we've spent decades training people to carry more without teaching them how to lead without losing themselves. Caroline breaks down what the body signals before the mind has words for it, what white space actually looks like inside a real calendar, and why the leaders who slow down are often the ones who lead best.

Because leadership, as Caroline sees it, is always a choice, even when the choices are hard.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• Why the exhaustion most leaders are carrying isn't a workload problem and what it actually is
• What your body signals before your mind has words for it
• The cost of burnout
• What white space actually looks like
• How to reclaim your calendar
• How to push back on an organizational culture that runs on urgency and availability
• What agency actually looks like when you don't love your options

We talk about:

• 00:00 Introduction
• 05:00 Showing up with abundance in entrepreneurial spaces and why it matters
• 07:00 The legacy question: what kind of leader do you want to be?
• 11:00 The cost of "do" culture and what it takes to stop
• 15:00 The nervous system, fight-or-flight, and what it means to feel safe as a leader
• 17:00 Shifting beliefs, not just behaviors
• 24:00 White space as strategy and what it looks like in practice
• 28:00 The calendar audit
• 31:00 Leading inside a culture that doesn't support you slowing down
• 36:00 Agency, choice, and the truth about where your power lives
• 39:00 The three leaders who shaped Caroline's trajectory

Connect with Caroline

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolinebaird1/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caroline_baird_coaching/
• Website: https://carolinebaird.com/

Connect with me

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dynamicalchemyadvisors
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dynamic-alchemy-advisors/
• Personal LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauriefainer/
• Website: https://amplified-authenticity.com/

Music created and produced by Riley Fouchier, DarkSky Productions